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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Creamyboy » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:01 pm

Does anyone know when CSM begin training and have they Any matches planned yet??



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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby swarthofole » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:52 pm

1st of july. as per the training games, I don't know much, but they usually have a game against a strong team before the season start. (Rostov as usually?)
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Flavius » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:55 am

Creamyboy wrote:Does anyone know when CSM begin training and have they Any matches planned yet??


CSM will begin training the 16th of july, as for the training games, we don't know yet.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby swarthofole » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:57 am

it's 16th now?
this article says Line Jorgensen should be present starting the 1st of july...

http://m.prosport.ro/alte-sporturi/hand ... e-17222044
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby HB9 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:12 am

Maybe because new contracts in handball usually (always?) start on the 1. July across Europe. If that Esbjerg contract goes ahead on that date (without an agreement reached until then between the parties), CSM will propbably not be happy.
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Flavius » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:36 am

I read on another romanian site the info that CSM reunites the 16th of july, and the article was much more recent than the one from prosport. HB9's explanation it's logical.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Bo$ko » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:13 am

Who is CSM's coach ?
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Flavius » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:20 am

Bo$ko wrote:Who is CSM's coach ?


You will find out next days.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Creamyboy » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:13 pm

Flavius wrote:I read on another romanian site the info that CSM reunites the 16th of july, and the article was much more recent than the one from prosport. HB9's explanation it's logical.


You Got a link for that article? Thx for the date ;)

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Flavius » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:43 am

With pleasure. I can't find the article right now, but the 16th it's much more plausible.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby mimi » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:02 pm

Bo$ko wrote:Who is CSM's coach ?

last week was Tone

this week nobody....

they cannot find a coach.... they dont want to come

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Serbhandall » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:51 pm

When everyone saw on which way Helle Thomsen get fired, no one is crazy to come.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby HB9 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:01 pm

I am sure there are more than enough candidates who would love to go there - even if it's just for 6 months.

The only question is if CSM deems those candidates to be 'good' enough.
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby vlad_impaler » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:23 pm

Serbhandall wrote:When everyone saw on which way Helle Thomsen get fired, no one is crazy to come.


What do you mean? Even Helle agreed she can pay for those results. There is nothing like that, you confirm or not. It also happens in Real Madrid and whatever. Even though I want to add that new president for all the sections, former legendary athlete Gabriela Szabo, said the new coaches will get more time.

What did Thomsen have to do? To beat Nykøbing, Craiova and whatever. And to show some ok display.

CSM wants continuity but it must be earned via streak. Ambros confirmed in ETO, that's why he had a long reign. Now you will see with the Hungarian coach, if he doesn't confirm... Fired like Konkoly!

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby swarthofole » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:38 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:CSM wants continuity but it must be earned via streak.

you made my day, vlad! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby mikh » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:43 am

The contract with the new coach will expire before the F4 anyway :)
Per will insure the continuity for the F4 2019 as well.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby swarthofole » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:51 pm

I am looking forward to see who's gonna defend in CSM. I think they will need more than Jacobsen and Cvijic as central defenders.
Imho this is the weak spot of CSM, not the coach...
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby mimi » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:53 am

mikh wrote:The contract with the new coach will expire before the F4 anyway :)
Per will insure the continuity for the F4 2019 as well.


it seems that will be a nordic coach

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby swarthofole » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:00 am

could you be more specific, mimi? thx
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby mimi » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:56 am

swarthofole wrote:could you be more specific, mimi? thx

that is all that i know

i dont have yet a name

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby AB10 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:22 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:
Serbhandall wrote:When everyone saw on which way Helle Thomsen get fired, no one is crazy to come.


What do you mean? Even Helle agreed she can pay for those results. There is nothing like that, you confirm or not. It also happens in Real Madrid and whatever. Even though I want to add that new president for all the sections, former legendary athlete Gabriela Szabo, said the new coaches will get more time.

What did Thomsen have to do? To beat Nykøbing, Craiova and whatever. And to show some ok display.

CSM wants continuity but it must be earned via streak. Ambros confirmed in ETO, that's why he had a long reign. Now you will see with the Hungarian coach, if he doesn't confirm... Fired like Konkoly!

What do you mean? :roll: She got fired in the hall after a match – and that a couple of weeks after she herself had wanted to resign but where the management had insisted that she stayed for the remainder of the season? If that's not putting good coaches off that job, I don't know what is.

When Thomsen left the team, they were leading the league and secured a spot in the CL quarter-finals. Something she'd achieved with a team that had a handful of new players (some with fairly large personalities). I think it's laughable to think that's anywhere near a "bad result" :lol: But I do agree Thomsen wasn't the right fit for that management. She's a very involved coach and CSM's management didn't allow her to be involved. But damn, what a team they could've been, had they actually allowed her to do what she does best. Thomsen is the kind of coach that can make her players actively want to leave all of their heart on court but she needs time and less of a bureaucratic iron grip on the team.

It seems obvious to me that it isn't the coach – pretty much regardless of which of the 7 (!) different coaches they've had since 2014 we're talking about – that's the problem in CSM. It's the management. And perhaps instead of firing a coach as soon as they lose one or two matches with the team, they should be happy that there's gradually less disparity in both the Romanian league and in Champions League. Because if they continue to lead a policy of a couple of losses and you're out, they're never gonna achieve continuity because the way the game is progressing, many different teams are getting better and there is gonna be less disparity, so if they don't change that policy, they'll most likely end up in the same situation coaching-wise every season.
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Flavius » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:30 pm

AB10, neither do I like the actual people that are in charge of leading the handball section. You don't know, unless you're romanian, but the team played very, very bad some games in the Romanian League and in the Romanian Cup before she was told that she can't continue. Those games were against Zalau, at home, in the Cup, and against Craiova and Rapid in the Domestic League. CSM didn't play as bad as in the cup match against Zalau since 2013, when the team was still a middle table team.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby HB9 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:14 am

New coach announced today, apperantly?
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Flavius » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:27 am

HB9 wrote:New coach announced today, apperantly?


Do you have some info regarding that?

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby HB9 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:33 am

No :D , but JyDeN posted it on europamester chat. And he/she seems to know their stuff when it comes to these things.
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