Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Talking about FEMALE handball in the World
User avatar
gyms
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1135
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:42 pm
Location: Győr-Moson-Sopron county / Hungary
Has thanked: 47 times
Been thanked: 42 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby gyms » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:29 pm

Katarina Krpez Slezak (Érd, RW) SRB --> HUN =D> =D> =D>

http://handball123.com/forum/viewforum. ... 1b72a46c03



User avatar
gergő
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1075
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:46 pm
Has thanked: 20 times
Been thanked: 31 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby gergő » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:35 pm

gyms wrote:Katarina Krpez Slezak (Érd, RW) SRB --> HUN =D> =D> =D>

imho its SRB --> & HUN :)

User avatar
eduardsson
Super Member
Posts: 223
Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:22 pm
Has thanked: 31 times
Been thanked: 31 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby eduardsson » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:08 pm

gyms wrote:Katarina Krpez Slezak (Érd, RW) SRB --> HUN =D> =D> =D>

http://handball123.com/forum/viewforum. ... 1b72a46c03



Outrageous. No comment

User avatar
Joana
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 2104
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:26 am
Location: Serbia
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 33 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby Joana » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:18 pm

I guess it means she got dual citizenship and not that she'll actually represent Hungary internationally?
Women's World Volleyball Championship
20.10.2018, Yokohama (JPN)
1. Serbia 2. Italy 3. China
The history is made. Thank you, girls!

User avatar
Ricci
Super Member
Posts: 187
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:01 pm
Location: Skopje, Macedonia
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby Ricci » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:28 pm

Joana wrote:I guess it means she got dual citizenship and not that she'll actually represent Hungary internationally?


Well she is 29 yo, and she played for Serbia in october, so...
We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

User avatar
OltchimRmValcea
Extra Member
Posts: 559
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:10 pm
Location: Romania
Has thanked: 60 times
Been thanked: 45 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby OltchimRmValcea » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:32 pm

@gyms, This is a topic for naturalization (playing for a new national team), not about getting new citizenship(s).
L. Hutupan-Dinu, V. Ardean-Elisei, Cristina Neagu, O. Manea, I. Stanca, M. Jovanovic, Y. Ozel, R. Maier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKvP63kFHw

User avatar
Wbk
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 2986
Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:40 pm
Location: SVK
Has thanked: 165 times
Been thanked: 126 times
Contact:

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby Wbk » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:39 pm

OltchimRmValcea wrote:@gyms, This is a topic for naturalization (playing for a new national team), not about getting new citizenship(s).

Take it easy, big guy! There's a room for the dual citizenship group of players here as well, see the initial post of this topic ;-)
Image

User avatar
Wbk
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 2986
Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:40 pm
Location: SVK
Has thanked: 165 times
Been thanked: 126 times
Contact:

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby Wbk » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:45 pm

Mariya KERCHIKOVA (lb; currently Lada Togliatti): KAZ --> RUS

http://handball.ru/player_show.php?id=Kerchikova
Image

User avatar
vlad_impaler
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1015
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:12 pm
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Has thanked: 411 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby vlad_impaler » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:48 pm

gyms wrote:Katarina Krpez Slezak (Érd, RW) SRB --> HUN =D> =D> =D>

http://handball123.com/forum/viewforum. ... 1b72a46c03


Very lame! I really don't know how can you really applaud something like this in Hungary. It's outrageous! :x

Buy some more players instead of producing them! I thought Radulovic, Triscsuk etc were enough. Now Elghaoui and Krpez.

User avatar
vlad_impaler
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1015
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:12 pm
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Has thanked: 411 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby vlad_impaler » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:56 pm

Now is it for naturalisation? This is the question. I think that in the case of Elghaoui it is. If it's for different purpose, I don't care. Naturalisations in sports should be rare. 1 player maybe per generation.

User avatar
gyms
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1135
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:42 pm
Location: Győr-Moson-Sopron county / Hungary
Has thanked: 47 times
Been thanked: 42 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby gyms » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:05 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:
gyms wrote:Katarina Krpez Slezak (Érd, RW) SRB --> HUN =D> =D> =D>

http://handball123.com/forum/viewforum. ... 1b72a46c03


Very lame! I really don't know how can you really applaud something like this in Hungary. It's outrageous! :x

Buy some more players instead of producing them! I thought Radulovic, Triscsuk etc were enough. Now Elghaoui and Krpez.


Take it easy! I doubt she will play for the hungarian NT. So please don't be so jealous. ;)

User avatar
OltchimRmValcea
Extra Member
Posts: 559
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:10 pm
Location: Romania
Has thanked: 60 times
Been thanked: 45 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby OltchimRmValcea » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:07 pm

Wbk wrote:
OltchimRmValcea wrote:@gyms, This is a topic for naturalization (playing for a new national team), not about getting new citizenship(s).

Take it easy, big guy! There's a room for the dual citizenship group of players here as well, see the initial post of this topic ;-)


Ok, sorry then. @gyms made it to look like she'll stop playing for Serbia. It was confusing, not only for me it seems. :D Cheers!
L. Hutupan-Dinu, V. Ardean-Elisei, Cristina Neagu, O. Manea, I. Stanca, M. Jovanovic, Y. Ozel, R. Maier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyKvP63kFHw

User avatar
gyms
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1135
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:42 pm
Location: Győr-Moson-Sopron county / Hungary
Has thanked: 47 times
Been thanked: 42 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby gyms » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:10 pm

OltchimRmValcea wrote:
Wbk wrote:
OltchimRmValcea wrote:@gyms, This is a topic for naturalization (playing for a new national team), not about getting new citizenship(s).

Take it easy, big guy! There's a room for the dual citizenship group of players here as well, see the initial post of this topic ;-)


Ok, sorry then. @gyms made it to look like she'll stop playing for Serbia. It was confusing, not only for me it seems. :D Cheers!


It seems she is going to play for SRB. After 3 years, she will be 32 years old, so I don't think she wants to play for HU.

User avatar
Joana
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 2104
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:26 am
Location: Serbia
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 33 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby Joana » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:26 pm

It's only natural she wants to experience the benefits of having a EU-member passport, and having been born in Vojvodina, she's entitled to it under Hungarian laws. I guess she finally passed that language proficiency test, she admitted she didn't even know how to say "Jó napot" when she first moved to Hungary. :)

I mean, she literally last played for Serbia a few days ago against Slovakia, so that's probably all there is to it.
Women's World Volleyball Championship
20.10.2018, Yokohama (JPN)
1. Serbia 2. Italy 3. China
The history is made. Thank you, girls!

User avatar
gergő
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1075
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:46 pm
Has thanked: 20 times
Been thanked: 31 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby gergő » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:09 pm

Joana wrote:It's only natural she wants to experience the benefits of having a EU-member passport, and having been born in Vojvodina, she's entitled to it under Hungarian laws. I guess she finally passed that language proficiency test, she admitted she didn't even know how to say "Jó napot" when she first moved to Hungary. :)

I mean, she literally last played for Serbia a few days ago against Slovakia, so that's probably all there is to it.

she had hungarian ancestry on his father's side and also wants to live in hungary after her career. end of story. nothing more.

User avatar
vlad_impaler
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1015
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:12 pm
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Has thanked: 411 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby vlad_impaler » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:14 pm

gyms wrote:
Take it easy! I doubt she will play for the hungarian NT. So please don't be so jealous. ;)


:-({|= I am not envious, I just fight against naturalisations. Do you think we couldn't have registered Sandy Barbosa? Imo you should open another thread, if she isn't going to play for Hungary. It's practically a player that acquired/received another nationality (one more in this case, dual nationality most likely) for some benefits. Nothing bad in that. But it's bad when Qatar from 20th position reaches medals.

User avatar
Gojira
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1879
Joined: Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:06 pm
Location: Budapest
Has thanked: 49 times
Been thanked: 114 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby Gojira » Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:47 pm

Before some of you get into hysterics, read the planned changes by the IHF on the previous page. Krpez has played in the Serbian NT at senior level, so she will not be able to play in the Hungarian NT regardless of citizenship.

User avatar
John
:::Handball Expert:::
Posts: 1492
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:16 pm
Been thanked: 116 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby John » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:53 pm

Gojira wrote:Before some of you get into hysterics, read the planned changes by the IHF on the previous page. Krpez has played in the Serbian NT at senior level, so she will not be able to play in the Hungarian NT regardless of citizenship.


Did they adopt that rule too? Because if they did then Omoregie can't play for Slovenia.

User avatar
Joana
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 2104
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:26 am
Location: Serbia
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 33 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby Joana » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:04 pm

John wrote:
Gojira wrote:Before some of you get into hysterics, read the planned changes by the IHF on the previous page. Krpez has played in the Serbian NT at senior level, so she will not be able to play in the Hungarian NT regardless of citizenship.


Did they adopt that rule too?


From what I see on the IHF website, no.

The rules are: you can only change your nationality once, there must be a 3-year break since you've last played on your previous NT, and to be eligible, you need to be born in that country or have a parent who was born there, or that you continuously lived there in the previous 3 years.

But I guess it means Omoregie is not eligible yet because she played for Bulgaria in the last 3 years.
Women's World Volleyball Championship
20.10.2018, Yokohama (JPN)
1. Serbia 2. Italy 3. China
The history is made. Thank you, girls!

User avatar
bajkalb
Extra Member
Posts: 656
Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:38 pm
Location: Hungary
Has thanked: 15 times
Been thanked: 30 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby bajkalb » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:56 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:
gyms wrote:Katarina Krpez Slezak (Érd, RW) SRB --> HUN =D> =D> =D>

http://handball123.com/forum/viewforum. ... 1b72a46c03


Very lame! I really don't know how can you really applaud something like this in Hungary. It's outrageous! :x

Buy some more players instead of producing them! I thought Radulovic, Triscsuk etc were enough. Now Elghaoui and Krpez.


Am I right that there is also a naturalized player in the Romanian NT? :-)

User avatar
Gojira
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1879
Joined: Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:06 pm
Location: Budapest
Has thanked: 49 times
Been thanked: 114 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby Gojira » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:42 pm

bajkalb wrote:
vlad_impaler wrote:
gyms wrote:Katarina Krpez Slezak (Érd, RW) SRB --> HUN =D> =D> =D>

http://handball123.com/forum/viewforum. ... 1b72a46c03


Very lame! I really don't know how can you really applaud something like this in Hungary. It's outrageous! :x

Buy some more players instead of producing them! I thought Radulovic, Triscsuk etc were enough. Now Elghaoui and Krpez.


Am I right that there is also a naturalized player in the Romanian NT? :-)

Dumanska. (I hope the spelling is right)

User avatar
Silviu
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1091
Joined: Tue May 01, 2012 9:36 am
Location: România/België
Has thanked: 120 times
Been thanked: 65 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby Silviu » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:26 pm

^Yup, but Dumanska has started to play in Romania from her youth level, so I think her case is quite different.

@bajkalb: if you are referring to Gabi Szűcs, then yes, she is the perfect example of a naturalized player, having plaid in two national teams. :)

User avatar
swarthofole
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 926
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:55 pm
Location: Bucharest
Been thanked: 75 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby swarthofole » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:08 pm

bajkalb wrote:
vlad_impaler wrote:
gyms wrote:Katarina Krpez Slezak (Érd, RW) SRB --> HUN =D> =D> =D>

http://handball123.com/forum/viewforum. ... 1b72a46c03


Very lame! I really don't know how can you really applaud something like this in Hungary. It's outrageous! :x

Buy some more players instead of producing them! I thought Radulovic, Triscsuk etc were enough. Now Elghaoui and Krpez.


Am I right that there is also a naturalized player in the Romanian NT? :-)


shhh...don't tell anyone. 8-[
anyway, it should be allowed if the naturalized player is not bringing any plusses. :D
...which is not the case with Krpez.
God, I am such an hypocrite! :roll:
Live long and prosper.

User avatar
vlad_impaler
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1015
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:12 pm
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Has thanked: 411 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby vlad_impaler » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:36 pm

bajkalb wrote:

Am I right that there is also a naturalized player in the Romanian NT? :-)


Yes, there is. Iulia Dumanska but she is living in Romania since the start of the high school (since almost 7 years ago, she arrived as minor). She studied and was formed here, played since youth. She even represented Romania Juniors.

Silviu wrote:^Yup, but Dumanska has started to play in Romania from her youth level, so I think her case is quite different.

@bajkalb: if you are referring to Gabi Szűcs, then yes, she is the perfect example of a naturalized player, having plaid in two national teams. :)


She isn't naturalised. In fact the Hungarians naturalised her, Gabi Szucs being born in Oradea, Romania. But of course, being of Hungarian origins, shouldn't be discussed from both parts. She also took Hungarian citizenship later. She holds dual nationality.

swarthofole wrote:shhh...don't tell anyone. 8-[


Nobody complains if you have 1, maybe even 2 naturalisations but when you reach medals like Qatar from 20th position in the World Champs, there is a problem. And I will be very vocal regarding women's handball, EHF should stop this. The Serbians should have represented their country, not f*** Qatar.

User avatar
vlad_impaler
Handball Fan-atic
Posts: 1015
Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:12 pm
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Has thanked: 411 times
Been thanked: 55 times

Re: Players' naturalisation in women's handball

Postby vlad_impaler » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:44 pm

John wrote:Did they adopt that rule too? Because if they did then Omoregie can't play for Slovenia.


They should stop this s**t and adopt the rules of football. If I am not wrong, there if you played even for youth/juniors (official games), you are not eligible anymore for the seniors of a different country national team.

Otherwise, in handball Messi could still play for Qatar.

Aren't you sick of Qatar? Won silver in 2015, kicked en-titre EURO (2016) champions Germany in 2017.

Let's laugh with Qatar and bloody EHF!

Qatar flew in about 60 Spanish fans to cheer for Qatar during the 2015 World Championship. They were paid fans.


Return to “Female Handball”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests