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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Flavius » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:59 pm

swarthofole wrote:CSM Bistrita - CSM Bucuresti 27-46 :shock:

too bad they have no competition...


Neither do Vardar nor Buducnost have.



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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby swarthofole » Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:57 pm

now it's about our league, Flavius, not about CL. it's not all about CL.
I was watching the game today and I got really bored. and I guess they did too (both sides).
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Flavius » Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:11 pm

Neah swartofole, the game was really spectacular. :D

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby dydiana » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:45 am

Congrats to Helle Thomsen! We beat poor Bistriţa by playing 50 minutes with Neagu and 45+ with Gullden (both still not in a good form) to score 46 goals and receive 27. Spectacular indeed! It was such "pleasure" to see Neagu finish the match on court (playing even the role of Bella when someone else could have done it to spare her some minutes), a fu#king LN game with absolutely nothing to prove, but on the contrary, risk unnecessary injuries of key players. Fu#king nonsense! I am so "proud" to beat Bistriţa playing most of the game with the first squad, with Neagu putting ice on her shoulder while on the bench (NOT after the game,which was a regular) and being sent again on court in the last fu#king minutes when we have Bazaliu and even Sabina good to play, with Bella having still shoulder problems herself and overusing her while Niombla is treated like a fu#king princess and benched for "back pain" (or let me say pain in the ass), with Majda playing soooo many minutes with her shoulder in bandages and pain while Curea is having a great form and plays on a good constant level ever since this season started. Incredible!!! Incredibly bad management of Helle of the substitutions and of the minutes our main players play in ordinary matches against weak opponents in LN.
I am soooo disappointed with what Helle did in the last 2 games (NFH and Bistriţa) and yes, it is not too much to say it was a disgrace to watch. It seems she has personal egos to fill up, instead of caring for the players she will need in Main round, instead to care for this team on the long term. WAKE UP!!!! I am still so upset and raging after 3 days.
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby dydiana » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:55 am

Oh and by the way, getting your revenge on Bistriţa to tame your frustrations from the NFH game (with such incredibly shitty tactical preparation and bad decisions in the game) with the risk of stupid injuries and also having taken down 27 goals, is nothing, absolutely nothing to be content about. It's actually one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen. Because to be honest, the attack wasn't even crisp and flowing nicely, it was still uneasy even so. Not mentioning the defense, Sabina taking too easy suspensions for minor things and lacking someone to take her place on decent level. I am waiting for Ayglon to come back and step up because we need her help. And hope Helle stops this madness she got after losing in Denmark. It is unhealthy for the girls.
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby vlad_impaler » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:32 pm

@ Dydiana

This is basically the best woman coach in handball. :)

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:20 pm

Dydiana, I don't recognize you .....no need to use such uncolloquial words for a Lady....( I mean you and also Helle). :roll:

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:02 pm

Bistrita - CSM Bucuresti 46 - 27 (ROUND VII)

Mehmedovic 8, Udristioiu 7, Gullden 6, Neagu 5, Curea 5, Frafjord 4, Kurtovic 3, Hagmann 3, Bazaliu 2, Manea 2, Jorgensen 1////
Rodriguez 8,Tetean 4,Ratiu 3, Szabo 3,Ivan 2, Orsivschi 2, Zagrean 2,Barbos 2, Pristavita 1 ////

Niombla had back pain and she wasn't used ; Oana Chirila played only about 15 min (first minutes of first half) but she (I have the impression) isn't full recovery after knee surgery: she has visible fears to risk and force her knee...I wish Oana full-health restore.
As goalkeeper CSM used Gruba most of the time and Iordache on the end (second half)

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:49 pm

ROUND VI

"U" Cluj - Valcea 27 - 32 (10-16)

Senocico 9, Berbece 4, Dindiligan 4, A.Valean 3, Puiu 3, Chintoan 2, Petrus 1, Boian 1 //////

Glybko 6 ,Herrero 6, Gavrila 5 , Adespii 3, Florica 3, Mitrache 3, Krnic 2,Tanasie 1, Craiu 1, Bacaoanu 1, Vukcevic 1 //////

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:14 pm

Clasament Liga Națională feminină – 2017/2018
Pos Team R W E D GM GT GoalsDifference Points
I CSM Bucuresti
7 7 0 0 241 156 85 21
II SCM Craiova
6 5 0 1 169 144 25 15
III HCM Râmnicu Vâlcea
6 4 0 2 153 136 17 12
IV ASC Corona Brașov
5 4 0 1 120 116 4 12
V CSM Roman
5 3 0 2 120 122 -2 9
VI CSM Bistrița
6 3 0 3 154 174 -20 9
VII CS Măgura Cisnădie
5 2 0 3 126 119 7 6
VIII HC Dunărea Brăila
5 2 0 3 113 113 0 6
IX HC Zalău
5 2 0 3 118 129 -11 6
X CSU Danubius Galati
5 2 0 3 93 104 -11 6
XI CS Rapid București
5 2 0 3 124 140 -16 6
XII ”U” Cluj
6 1 0 5 153 176 -23 3
XIII HCM Unirea Slobozia
5 1 0 4 110 142 -32 3
XIV CSM Slatina
5 0 0 5 119 142 -23 0

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:49 am

ROUND VI

Zalau - Bistrita 32-29 (18-14)

Dragut 9(12), Trif 5, C-nescu 5, Tamas 4,Rob 4, Bardac 3, Ciolan 2 //////
Pristavita 12(13) ,Rodriguez 7,Ratiu 5, Szabo 2, Barbos 1, Orsivschi 1, Zagrean 1 ///////



Very good form Pristavita this seazon.... she also scores plenty of goals 42 (second place after C.Zamfir Florianu 51 goals)
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:42 pm

ROUND VI

Braila - Slatina 20-20 (11-10)

Axinte 6, Ilyna Djiana 5, Shteriova 4, Burtea 1, Szucs 1 , Berescu 1 /////
Andrei I. 4, Ostase 4 ,Lazar 3 ,Popescu M. 2, Rusu N.2, Goran 1, Andrei A.1 ////
Seems that Stoicanescu didn't play (Slatina).

Galati - Brasov 22-19 (12-10)

Balaban 5, Livrinikj 4, Safta 4, Clisu 3, Bokaric T. 2, Sheyko 1, Mihart 1, Artean 1, Jovanoska 1 ////
Ciuciulete 5, Tiron 3 (8), Chiper 3(7), Tirca 3(3) two goals from 2 penalties , Bloj 2(6), Bucur 2(5), Popa Laura 1(3) /////


Roman - Cisnadie 32 - 33 (16-19 )

Iuganu-Popa 12(13), De Sousa 7, Toskovic 4, Stoleru 4, Iovanescu 2, Stanciulescu 2, Chitacu 1 //////

Bozovic 9, Ada Moldovan 7, Araujo L.4, Gatzel 3, Serban 3, Apetrei 3,Costa M. 2, Fachinello 1,Daniela Crap 1 /////

Cisnadie leads mostly of the time and had 32-29 last 2-3 min and than had the last atack at 33-32 for last 30 seconds.

All unexpected scores may be less Roman- Cisnadie (1X2) but Brasov had better squad on paper and also Braila .....(Braila who played in home and just won in Roman's home....Roman lost the last 2 games in home consecutively after Dunajujvaros knocked-out execution.....
On the other hand we should be worried by weak form of some NT players (except Iuganu) players who were on wide squad or even official squad NT.
We are pleased that some junior players start to play on LN (Ostase,Mihart,Bucur,Tirca etc..)
Slatina won the first point on LN.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:40 pm

After Corona's Brasov site 3 players were not able to train (injuries ? diseases ?).....Bucevschi, Tatar, Chiricuta...but I think this is not an excuse for Tiron, Bloj,Chiper....

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:19 am

ROUND VI

Slobozia - Rapid Bucuresti 31-22 (15-10)

A.Ilie 12(1p), Enescu 6(2p), Patuleanu 5,Georgescu 3, Burlachenko 3,Sava 1, Toma 1 /////
Buca 5(4p), Trifan 4(3p), Traila 3, A.C.Popa 3, Dache 2,Doica 2, Cruceanu 2, Chirigiu 1 ///////

Rapid had 9 penalties Slobozia 4 penalties . Predoi from Slobozia bad ankle(?) injury on second half.The battle in order to avoid direct leave of LN (2 teams ) is really fierced btwn Slatina,Rapid,Cluj,Slobozia,Braila,Galati.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:06 am

ROUND VIII in advance


CSM BUCURESTI - VALCEA 27-24 (16-10)

C.Neagu 6(54%), Gullden 6(2p) ,Frafjord 3, Hagmann 3, Kurtovic 2, Curea 2, Manea 2, Udristioiu 1,Jorgensen 1, Bazaliu 1//////
Vasilevskaia 9(!), Glybko 3(33%), Florica 3,Craiu 2, Khouildi 2, Gavrila 1, Herrero 1, Vukcevic 1, Krnic 1 /////////

Apart score on second half was 11 - 14 in favour of Valcea !!! The GK of CSM Ungureanu (FH) Gruba ,Iordache (SH) and for Valcea were Razum(FH) and Blazek(SH). CSM had 4 penalties, Valcea 3. I do not understood why Valcea's coaches used Krnic on atack....
they just wait to score only 1 goal from 6 attemps ?
On last 10 minutes Valcea had 2 time occasion to levell score .
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:38 pm

GALATI has the best defence (123) but the weakest atack (115) in Liga Nationala after 6 rounds ....place 8 from 14 teams (3 wins )....

Weakest defence (Bistrita, 206 after 7 rounds) best atack (CSM Bucuresti, 268 after 8 rounds).

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby vlad_impaler » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:59 pm

Maria Constantinescu as a RB this time for Zalău. I believe she is a solution for the national team, she can also play centre much better than primadona Laslo and is complete player. She can drible like tonight or to shoot from distance. I would take her to Germany if she is really recovered. Constantinescu and especially Tănasie suffered very bad injuries. Tănasie is lucky she's still playing handball. Not just the simple surgery but also bone addition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h-ECfDevEk&t=1189s

Btw, I love how Bardar and Kader are defending a la Tadici.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby vlad_impaler » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:08 pm

Florică is not bad at all. She should play for Romania. I don't think she is worse than Dincă and even Iuganu.

I don't understand why we are still playing with Ardean-Elisei, when we have Chiricuţă, Florică and Iuganu, even a more mature Dincă.

The developments of Chiricuţă and Florică are impressive.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:24 pm

ROUND VII

Valcea - Zalau 30 - 26 (17-14)

Glybko 11(100%), Vasilevskaja 5,Adespii 4, Florica 4, Herrero 2,Tanasie 2, Craiu 1, Krnic 1 //////
Constantinescu 8 (13) ,Tamas L. 5, Rob 5, Dragut 2, Trif 2, Abed Kader 2,Bardac 1,Teodorescu 1 ////////


Rapid - Roman 30-29 (15-14)

Trifan 9 (17),Dache 6,Carabulea 4,Chirigiu 3, Bratulescu 3, Buca 3, Cruceanu 2 ////////
Simion 8, Iovanescu 5, Toskovic 5, Stanciulescu 3, Polocoser 3, De Sousa 3,Ferfolja 2, Iuganu 1(?) ///////


On last seconds on Roman's atack, referee decided not recognize the equalizer goal of Iuganu-Popa ! (valid goal on my opinion)

Slatina - Cluj 22 - 22 (11 - 16 !)

Ostase 6, Lazar S. 6, Rusu 4, Goran 3, Andrei I. 2, Carligeanu 1 ///////
Chintoan 7,Senocico 6, Puiu 5, Berbece 2, Vasiliu 1, Tamas R. 1 ////////
U Cluj only 6 goals on second half ! Slatina equalized on very last second.


Corona - Slobozia 30 - 21 (16 - 13)


Tirca 9(12)(4p),Tiron 4,Hotea 4, Bloj 4, Tomescu 3, Marilena Neagu 2, Bucur 2, Popa L 1, Ciuciulete 1 ////////
Toma 5, Patuleanu 4, Burlachenko 4, Enescu 3, Ivan 3, Dascalete 2 ///////



Cisnadie - Braila 21-14 (9 - 7)


ADA Moldovan 9(indefatigable Ada),Bozovic 4, Costa 3, Serban 2,Gatzel 1, Apetrei 1, Marginean 1 , //////
Axinte 4, Czeczi 3, Ilyina Dj. 2, Gheorghe 1, Horobet 1, Szucs 1, Burtea 1, Epureanu 1 /////////


I hope datas offered by FRH official site are valid.
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:12 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:Florică is not bad at all. She should play for Romania. I don't think she is worse than Dincă and even Iuganu.

I don't understand why we are still playing with Ardean-Elisei, when we have Chiricuţă, Florică and Iuganu, even a more mature Dincă.

The developments of Chiricuţă and Florică are impressive.



My own option for NT should be :

Dedu,Dumanska (GK)
Chiricuta,Iuganu (LW)
Neagu,Florianu,Bazaliu (LB)
Bucevschi,Zamfirescu,Pricopi (CB)
Dragut, Geiger (RB)
Udristioiu, A.Ilie (RW)
Tomescu,Pintea (Piv)

If we want to change generation let's have guts to change. Neagu and Geiger should have biggest experience in this team.As you see I should take the risk with only 2 GK and I shouldn't take Laslo (too slow on my opinion and not very imaginative ).As so far now Laslo is a disappointment... But I bet Martin will use 3 GK and also 3 pivots.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Silviu » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:18 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:I don't understand why we are still playing with Ardean-Elisei

Because she is by far the best defender on that position?

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:10 pm

ROUND VII


Craiova - Galati 28-15 (15-6)

Nikolic 8, Florianu 7(10), Tudor 3, Pricopi 2, Klikovac 2, Ardean 2,Trifunovic 1, Ticu 1, Selaru 1, Vizitiu 1 ////////
Selever 3, Jovanovska 2, Livrinikj 2, Clisu 2, Bokaric 1, Safta 1, Artean 1, Conache 1, Mihart 1, Balaban 1 ///////

Burcea used all players of Craiova's squad ....

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:03 am

Doru Delavale wrote: ROUND VII


Craiova - Galati 28-15 (15-6)

Nikolic 8, Florianu 7(10), Tudor 3, Pricopi 2, Klikovac 2, Ardean 2,Trifunovic 1, Ticu 1, Selaru 1, Vizitiu 1 ////////
Selever 3, Jovanovska 2, Livrinikj 2, Clisu 2, Bokaric 1, Safta 1, Artean 1, Conache 1, Mihart 1, Balaban 1 ///////

Burcea used all players of Craiova's squad ....


I have to make an Addenda because on http://sportuldoljean.ro/2017/11/02/han ... ati-28-15/ one of the Galati scorer was Beleska(2) and not Safta(1) and Conache(1) as FRH official site show on statistic.... I apologize for inadvertence. (I only saw live just a part of second half ). Pity that FRH's statistic is not 100% reliable. There were more others situations when I got the impression that the accuracy of FRH statistic is not infallible (because I watched live that matches and I remembered that X player for instance, seems to score more goals than statistic show ). I demand understanding. Sorry !

P.S. on FRH match datas Beleska didn 't appeared at all , not even as court player on Galati team ....

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Synchrony » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:49 am

Wait, Andrea Beleska is playing for Galati now?

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:22 am

Synchrony wrote:Wait, Andrea Beleska is playing for Galati now?



Already "old" news....There is now a little Macedonian "nest"...


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