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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:24 pm

Gojira wrote:What about Szidónia? Is she injured or out of form?


I don't know where she was, I guess she has a minor injury or she's ill. She didn't play yesterday, wasn't even there with the team.



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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Gojira » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:54 pm

Faith wrote:
Gojira wrote:What about Szidónia? Is she injured or out of form?


I don't know where she was, I guess she has a minor injury or she's ill. She didn't play yesterday, wasn't even there with the team.

OK, thanks.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:48 pm

Kisvárda - Debrecen 29-23 (14-12)

KKC: Krisztina Triscsuk 8, Tamara Radojevic 5(2), Samira Rocha 5, Maria Khakunova 3, Adrienn Orbán 3, Valéria Szabó 2, Vesna Milanovic Litre 2, Marina Dmitrovic 1
DVSC: Jelena Despotovic 7, Anna Punko 4, Lotte Grigel 3, Viktória Csáki 3(3), Éva Vantara-Kelemen 3, Arna Sif Pálsdottir 1, Csenge Hajduch 1, Petra Tóvizi 1

Penalties: 2/2 - 3/3
Suspensions: 5x2min - 4x2min

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:37 pm

Érd - Fehérvár 35-22 (20-7)

ÉRD: Katarina Krpez Slezák 8, Gabriella Tóth 5, Mireya González 4, Kinga Klivinyi 3, Mariama Signaté 3, Nikolett Kiss 3, Szonja Gávai 3, Laura Szabó 3(1), Andela Bulatovic 1, Jamina Roberts 1, Anett Kisfaludy 1
FKC: Bernadett Temes 3, Szabina Mayer 3, Claudine Mendy 3, Olga Gorshenina 3, Jelena Lavko 3(3), Elena Gjorgjijevska 2, Orsolya Pelczéder 2, Yana Zhilinskaite 1, Krisztina Májer 1

Penalties: 1/1 - 4/3
Suspensions: 4x2min - 1x2min

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Siófok - Békéscsaba 39-29 (18-16)

SKC: Estelle Nze Minko 11, Simone Böhme 7(1), Ildikó Erdősi 5, Nelly Such 4, Asma Elghaoui 4, Camille Aoustin 2, Sanja Damnjanovic 2, Melinda Geiger 2, Katarina Jezic 2
BÉK: Jovana Kovacevic 7, Tímea Szögi 4(3), Adrienn Mihálffy 4(2), Aleksandra Vukajlovic 4, Mercédesz Walfisch 2, Laura Giricz 2, Katalin Zöldi-Tóth 1, Kata Farkas 1, Adrienn Szarka 1, Anett Kovács 1, Eszter Gidai 1, Rózsa Bottó 1

Penalties: 2/1 - 5/5
Suspensions: 4x2min - 9x2min

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:37 pm

Why Zamfirescu didn't play ? Is she has health problems ? Or the new coach doesn't use her ?
And when Perianu is able to come back on the pitch ? THX ! :-k

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:24 am

Dunaújváros - Vác 27-25 (15-16)

DKKA: Luca Szekereczés 9(2), Camila Micijevic 7, Anita Kazai 4, Luca Dombi 3, Orsolya Monori 1, Dusmáta Takács 1, Anita Bulath 1, Katarina Tomasevic 1
VÁC: Dijana Jovetic 11, Patrícia Kovács 3(2), Konszuéla Hámori 2, Sanja Radosavljevic 2, Barbara Arenhart 2, Gréta Kácsor 1, Bianka Barján 1, Rita Lakatos 1, Karoline de Souza 1, Fanny Helembai 1

Penalties: 4/2 - 6/2
Suspensions: 4x2min - 3x2min

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:29 am

Doru Delavale wrote:Why Zamfirescu didn't play ? Is she has health problems ? Or the new coach doesn't use her ?
And when Perianu is able to come back on the pitch ? THX ! :-k


According to DVSC's site Zamfirescu has suffered an ankle injury again during the World Champs, she is recovering, but she will be okay soon.
In theory Perianu will be able to play again at the end of April/beginning of May, but I doubt they will risk it. The club said her season is over.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:51 pm

MTK Budapest - Vasas 24-20 (12-8)

MTK: Eszter Tóth 7, Szabina Karnik 5(1), Liliia Gorilska 4(2), Rita Termány 3, Krisztina Szádvári 2, Bianka Terenyi 1, Petra Slakta 1, Bettina Kuti 1
VAS: Csenge Kuczora 6(3), Ágnes Kocsis 3, Bozsana Fekete 3, Mónika Pados 2, Mercédesz Németh 2, Vanesa Agovic 2, Adél Hárs 1, Rebeka Arany 1

Penalties: 4/3 - 3/3
Suspensions: 6x2min - 6x2min

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:34 pm

Siófok - Győr 21-27 (8-15)

SKC: Estelle Nze-Minko 6(1), Simone Böhme 4(2), Asma Elghaoui 3, Katarina Jezic 3, Camille Aoustin 2, Fruzsina Ferenczy 1, Nelly Such 1, Melinda Geiger 1
GYŐR: Nycke Groot 5(1), Zsuzsanna Tomori 5, Yvette Broch 5, Nora Mörk 4, Stine Oftedal 3, Bernadett Bódi 3, Anita Görbicz 1, Jana Knedlíková 1

Penalties: 5/3 - 2/1
Suspensions: 2x2min - 6x2min

No Anne Mette today, Stine is back.
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Kisvárda - Vác 28-27 (15-12)

KKC: Krisztina Triscsuk 10(1), Tamara Radojevic 8(2), Vesna Milanovic Litre 5, Samira Rocha 3, Mariia Khakunova 1, Ivanna Mihovych 1
VÁC: Karoline de Souza 7(6), Dijana Jovetic 5, Bianka Barján 3, Sanja Radosavljevic 3, Gréta Kácsor 3, Patrícia Kovács 2, Rita Lakatos 2, Konszuéla Hámori 1, Piroska Szamoránszky 1

Penalties: 3/3 - 6/6
Suspensions: 7x2min - 5x2min

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby swarthofole » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:25 pm

Faith wrote:Siófok - Győr 21-27 (8-15)

SKC: Estelle Nze-Minko 6(1), Simone Böhme 4(2), Asma Elghaoui 3, Katarina Jezic 3, Camille Aoustin 2, Fruzsina Ferenczy 1, Nelly Such 1, Melinda Geiger 1


did Denisa Dedu play? how is she lately?
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:54 pm

swarthofole wrote:
Faith wrote:Siófok - Győr 21-27 (8-15)

SKC: Estelle Nze-Minko 6(1), Simone Böhme 4(2), Asma Elghaoui 3, Katarina Jezic 3, Camille Aoustin 2, Fruzsina Ferenczy 1, Nelly Such 1, Melinda Geiger 1


did Denisa Dedu play? how is she lately?


She played, she plays 60 minutes lately, because the other two GK's are out (Pastrovics retired during the season, Szemerey got injured), there's only a young girl behind her. Even though that usually there's no defence in front of her, she makes some nice saves. Today she was really good at 1 against 1 situations.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby swarthofole » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:38 am

thank you, Faith!
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:43 pm

Debrecen - MTK Budapest 30-27 (15-13)

DVSC: Anna Punko 7, Lotte Grigel 4, Viktória Csáki 4(3), Nóra Varsányi 4, Karyna Yezhykava 3, Arna Sif Pálsdottir 2, Júlia Hársfalvi 2, Éva Vantara-Kelemen 1, Madalina Zamfirescu 1, Csenge Hajduch 1, Szederke Sirián 1
MTK: Szabina Karnik 11(4), Noémi Dakos 5, Rita Temány 3, Eszter Tóth 2, Krisztina Szádvári 2, Petra Slakta 2, Gréta Kovács 2

Penalties: 3/3 - 4/4
Suspensions: 4x2min - 8x2min

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:09 pm

Fehérvár - Dunaújváros 23-24 (11-12)

FKC: Alexandra do Nascimento 10(6), Claudine Mendy 5, Krisztina Májer 2, Orsolya Pelczéder 2, Elena Gjorgjijevska 2, Jelena Lavko 1, Szabina Mayer 1
DDKA: Luca Szekerczés 7(3), Orsolya Monori 4, Luca Dombi 3, Anita Kazai 3, Babett Szalai 2, Camila Micijevic 2, Dusmáta Takács 1, Viktória Nick 1, Katrin Klujber 1

Penalties: 7/6 - 3/3
Suspensions: 5x2min - 5x2min
+ Monori got a straight red card.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Gojira » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:39 pm

Faith wrote:Fehérvár - Dunaújváros 23-24 (11-12)

FKC: Alexandra do Nascimento 10(6), Claudine Mendy 5, Krisztina Májer 2, Orsolya Pelczéder 2, Elena Gjorgjijevska 2, Jelena Lavko 1, Szabina Mayer 1
DDKA: Luca Szekerczés 7(3), Orsolya Monori 4, Luca Dombi 3, Anita Kazai 3, Babett Szalai 2, Camila Micijevic 2, Dusmáta Takács 1, Viktória Nick 1, Katrin Klujber 1

Penalties: 7/6 - 3/3
Suspensions: 5x2min - 5x2min
+ Monori got a straight red card.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Faith » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:29 pm

Kecskemét - Kisvárda 23-25 (13-15)

KECS: Edina Szabó 5(1), Dóra Deáki 4, Éva Fauszt 4, Pálma Siska 3, Olha Nikolayenko 2(1), Yuliia Kucerova 2, Nikolett Varga 1, Jovana Risovic 1, Dóra Horváth 1
KKC: Krisztina Tricsuk 8(1), Adrienn Orbán 5, Vesna Milanovic Litre 5, Tamara Radojevic 4(2), Mariia Khakunova 2(1), Samira Rocha 1

Penalties: 5/2 - 6/4
Suspensions: 4x2min - 5x2min

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Vasas - Siófok 33-34 (14-17)

VAS: Csenge Kuczora 9(2), Kitti Becséri 6, Ágnes Kocsis 5, Mónika Pados 3, Beatrix Hasánghy 3, Bozsana Fekete 3, Rebeka Arany 1, Cornelia Lyngby 1, Melinda Szatmári 1, Theodóra Moutsogianni 1
SKC: Estelle Nze-Minko 9(1), Simone Böhme 5(3), Ildikó Erdősi 4, Fruzsina Ferenczy 3, Nelly Such 3, Melinda Geiger 3, Camille Aoustin 3(1), Asma Elghaoui 2, Katarina Jezic 2

Penlaties: 3/2 - 5/4
Suspensions: 4x2min - 4x2min

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby OltchimRmValcea » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:54 am

Derp wrote:There are rumors that it is easier to buy out someone form CL team than signing a Hungarian player from a medium team in NB1.
Just look at Siófok: Nze Minko, Damjanovic, Böhme, Jezic, Dedu, Geiger... and still they have no chance even to reach an EHF-cup place.

Can you be more clear about Siofok please? What do you mean? They are 4th in your strong Hungarian League for a long time and it's quite impressive for a new "born" squad. If they miss EHF Cup places is only for their bad luck during this season: ACL injuries suffered by Perianu and Janjusevic or pregnancies of Damnjanovic and Gnabouyou. Now their back line relies on 2 players, Nze Minko and Geiger. No defense, no substitutes. There's no surprise for their last results, with such short bench. Second half must be a big challenge for little Rasmussen, when his girls ran out of energy, especially the engine Nze Minko. :)
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Domokos Pál » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:31 am

OltchimRmValcea wrote:
Derp wrote:There are rumors that it is easier to buy out someone form CL team than signing a Hungarian player from a medium team in NB1.
Just look at Siófok: Nze Minko, Damjanovic, Böhme, Jezic, Dedu, Geiger... and still they have no chance even to reach an EHF-cup place.

Can you be more clear about Siofok please? What do you mean? They are 4th in your strong Hungarian League for a long time and it's quite impressive for a new "born" squad. If they miss EHF Cup places is only for their bad luck during this season: ACL injuries suffered by Perianu and Janjusevic or pregnancies of Damnjanovic and Gnabouyou. Now their back line relies on 2 players, Nze Minko and Geiger. No defense, no substitutes. There's no surprise for their last results, with such short bench. Second half must be a big challenge for little Rasmussen, when his girls ran out of energy, especially the engine Nze Minko. :)



Actually, it's already certain that Siófok will play in the EHF Cup next season. They qualified for the Final 4 in the Hungarian Cup, and that's enough for them.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby OltchimRmValcea » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:09 am

Domokos Pál wrote:Actually, it's already certain that Siófok will play in the EHF Cup next season. They qualified for the Final 4 in the Hungarian Cup, and that's enough for them.

Really? Strange. I mean 4th team from Hungarian Cup to qualify for EHF Cup (that's sounds too much) instead 5th team from your league. Here in Romania you have to reach the final in this competition (Cup) if you want to get a ticket for Europe. If final is playing between 2 teams which are already qualified for European Cups (that means they are ranked on podium in domestic league at the end of season) then the ticket goes to the next best ranked team (4th) of our league.
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Germanicus » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:05 am

Domokos Pál wrote:Actually, it's already certain that Siófok will play in the EHF Cup next season. They qualified for the Final 4 in the Hungarian Cup, and that's enough for them.

Negative.
In conclusion, I declare that EHF must be destroyed

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Germanicus » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:07 am

OltchimRmValcea wrote:Really? Strange.

No, no strange. Simply wrong. :-)
In conclusion, I declare that EHF must be destroyed

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Domokos Pál » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:30 pm

OltchimRmValcea wrote:
Domokos Pál wrote:Actually, it's already certain that Siófok will play in the EHF Cup next season. They qualified for the Final 4 in the Hungarian Cup, and that's enough for them.

Really? Strange. I mean 4th team from Hungarian Cup to qualify for EHF Cup (that's sounds too much) instead 5th team from your league. Here in Romania you have to reach the final in this competition (Cup) if you want to get a ticket for Europe. If final is playing between 2 teams which are already qualified for European Cups (that means they are ranked on podium in domestic league at the end of season) then the ticket goes to the next best ranked team (4th) of our league.


In Hungary two teams qualify by the League, and one by the Cup.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Domokos Pál » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:33 pm

Germanicus wrote:
OltchimRmValcea wrote:Really? Strange.

No, no strange. Simply wrong. :-)


Well, in theory it's possible that one of the other 3 teams in the Final 4 of the Cup (Győr, FTC, Érd) ends below 4th place in the League. Then this team will qualify for EHF Cup from the Hungarian Cup, taking Siófok's place away. But it's highly improbable.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Germanicus » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:56 pm

Domokos Pál wrote:
Germanicus wrote:
OltchimRmValcea wrote:Really? Strange.

No, no strange. Simply wrong. :-)


Well, in theory it's possible that one of the other 3 teams in the Final 4 of the Cup (Győr, FTC, Érd) ends below 4th place in the League. Then this team will qualify for EHF Cup from the Hungarian Cup, taking Siófok's place away. But it's highly improbable.

1., It's unlikely, but possible. So your statement "already certain" was wrong. It is not.
2., If Siófok will be 4th in the Cup, then not they, but the 3-5. ranked teams of the championship get the places in EHF Cup (and the 6th may ask for a wild card). It's the old practice.
3., However, according to EHF regulations (quote):
A qualification to the EHF Cup from any other domestic competition than the national championship is subject to EHF approval
. I.e. a result in the national cup may only delegate to EHF Cup if EHF approvoes it (since the cup is not the national championship). And EHF tends not to approve 3rd and lower ranked teams of national cups. So most probably even the 3rd position does not grant a participation in EHF Cup.
In conclusion, I declare that EHF must be destroyed

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2017/2018

Postby Domokos Pál » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:51 pm

Germanicus wrote:
Domokos Pál wrote:
Germanicus wrote:No, no strange. Simply wrong. :-)


Well, in theory it's possible that one of the other 3 teams in the Final 4 of the Cup (Győr, FTC, Érd) ends below 4th place in the League. Then this team will qualify for EHF Cup from the Hungarian Cup, taking Siófok's place away. But it's highly improbable.

1., It's unlikely, but possible. So your statement "already certain" was wrong. It is not.
2., If Siófok will be 4th in the Cup, then not they, but the 3-5. ranked teams of the championship get the places in EHF Cup (and the 6th may ask for a wild card). It's the old practice.
3., However, according to EHF regulations (quote):
A qualification to the EHF Cup from any other domestic competition than the national championship is subject to EHF approval
. I.e. a result in the national cup may only delegate to EHF Cup if EHF approvoes it (since the cup is not the national championship). And EHF tends not to approve 3rd and lower ranked teams of national cups. So most probably even the 3rd position does not grant a participation in EHF Cup.



1. Yes, I wrote "certain" instead of "very likely".
2 - 3: Debrecen got 3rd place in the Cup last season, and they played in the EHF Cup as a result of that. (I thought they got 4th but I was wrong. So if Siófok gets at least 3rd in the Cup, they are OK. Otherwise, they will have to qualify through the League.)

Sorry, OltchimRmValcea, and thanks, Germanicus for correcting me.


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