2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

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2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby will4104 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:06 pm

Wed 1/11/2017
18:30 something BBM Bietigheim - Vipers Kristiansand

Sat 4/11/2017
13:30 FC Midtjylland - Brest Bretagne Handball
15:00 RK Krim Mercator - Vistal Gdynia
15:00 FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria - Thüringer HC
15:00 CSM Bucuresti - NFH Nykobing Falster
17:00 HC Vardar - Larvik
19:30 Buducnost - Metz

Mon 6/11/2017
19:00 Győri Audi ETO - Rostov-Don



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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby vlad_impaler » Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:20 pm

CSM play at Sala Dinamo.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby will4104 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:13 pm

something BBM Bietigheim - Vipers Kristiansand 25:24 (16:13)

Worst Game Ever, or something like that. But it was fun. In an excruciating way :)

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby HB9 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:14 pm

http://www.eurohandball.com/ec/cl/women ... istiansand

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Wow :-"

*edit: nervermind, it was corrected. 'twas fun while it lasted. :)

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby vlad_impaler » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:55 pm

The level of the Russian league now is grotesque.

I have a recommendation for the EHF: please, but please increase the number of club in Champions League at least. If you really want improved level, do this. Why? Simply because if we will have for instance 3 teams from Russia all directly qualified, they will be kinda obliged indirectly to rise up the level of the players. The squads will be much better.

Imagine like this:

- 4 from Denmark
- 3 from Hungary
- 3 from Russia
- 2 from Norway
- 2 from Germany
- 2 from France
- 2 from Romania
- 1 from Montenegro
- 1 from Austria
- 1 from Macedonia
- 1 from Sweden
- 1 from Slovenia
- 1 from Croatia
- 1 from Spain
- 1 from Poland
- 1 FROM Turkey

We need at least 24, if not 32 clubs. The EHF Cup leave it 16, but we need 32 in CL. There are 27 and another 5 you can decide via playoffs, between BLR, even SRB, NED, CZE/SVK etc and if they don't want, 5 directly or based on invitations the rest. We would have 8 groups, then the knockout phase (1/16). Another 8 can join the other 8 in the 1/16 of EHF Cup.

Only 4 group format is too boring if you don't bring diversity. And you simply don't improve handball at all. It's worse than when we had Lada vs. Hypo finals overall.

Denmark and Hungary have good leagues now, they deserve more. And with also 3 for Russia, you will have the Russians back in handball. IMO in Romania we are also too bored only to watch CSM Bucharest in CL. The Hungarians and Danish fans also want more, look at football! You can still do it, for the 32 places of football much more, many fight. So 32 is affordable also in handball. Norway, Germany and France can also support every season 2 clubs in the most prestigious competition.

Don't you think is funny some are traveling by bus in 2017 when plane tickets aren't expensive at all? EHF is at the level of the 80s at maximum. Handball wasn't popularise, it's a bit regress. We used to have Bundesliga Women on Eurosport, Champions League and so on.

EHF lacks everything, you are far from basketball. You should still be 1/3 of basketball, even if Scandinavia isn't Turkey in terms of big countries.

It's sad one of the oldest team sports of Europe is at this level. We can see the Russians investing in volleyball, but there is also tradition in women's handball. I personally don't want to see 5 Russian billionaires investing in Russia, but I want to see compact and united Europe. Although worse would be Qatar PSG and if you don't do anything, this happens.

Women's handball lacks its history, traditional seasons. The prizes should be equal, in tennis are equal and women are not so watched as the men. But women's handball attracts a lot of views, popularity.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:11 am

2010/2011 was the last season with over 30 clubs in the qualifying round. So where do we go? How do you stop the regress? Because the popularity looks to go down.

You killed Challenge Cup, it was a good decision but give them the possibility now to play against the bests.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:44 am

How is Naidzinavicius lately, HB9 and others? Is she really that good? She's scoring like a machine. What about the level?

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby HB9 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:52 pm

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https://scontent.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5A6ED10E

Lucky dog. :)

vlad_impaler wrote:The level of the Russian league now is grotesque.

I have a recommendation for the EHF: please, but please increase the number of club in Champions League at least. If you really want improved level, do this. Why? Simply because if we will have for instance 3 teams from Russia all directly qualified, they will be kinda obliged indirectly to rise up the level of the players.

Comrade vlad :salut:,

you are not going to increase the level of the Champions League by increasing the number of teams by such a huge margin. Such a move would also put additional strain on teams who do have a proper league in their country. Why should the EHF help Russia (or any other country for that matter) anyway?

And why 3 russian teams? No russian teams has asked for a wild card in the last for the past few years - evidently they aren't interested or they can't afford it. Either way, the 'level' is fine as it is, considering that some teams have gigantic financial possibilities and still sometimes struggle against some semi-professional opponents in the CL.

vlad_impaler wrote:How is Naidzinavicius lately, HB9 and others? Is she really that good? She's scoring like a machine. What about the level?

I believe quite a few 7m are counted into the stats as well. I don't know if she is really good, but for sure there are worse players in the CL.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby Gojira » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:25 pm


I understand you :D

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby guesthand » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:50 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:How is Naidzinavicius lately, HB9 and others? Is she really that good? She's scoring like a machine. What about the level?

She was the best player with the GK, Tess.
5 goals in 7m.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby Germanicus » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:55 pm

In my opinion, Naidzinavicius is one of the best players of the world. World class in defense and in attack as well, great assists, nice goals.
In conclusion, I declare that EHF must be destroyed

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby Bo$ko » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:07 pm

Germanicus wrote:In my opinion, Naidzinavicius is one of the best players of the world. World class in defense and in attack as well, great assists, nice goals.

You should change your dealer... :-"
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby HB9 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:50 am

She is no Dalby, of course!

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby silvius » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:15 pm

CSM Bucureşti – Nykobing Falster 39-26 (18-12)

CSM has humiliated Nykobing as expected.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby Doru Delavale » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:39 pm

Niombla was absent on today- match against Nykobing (also on last match on Liga Nationala)....she has back problems ans she is already in France . Majda was on Belgrad with her shoulder problem and she was used by Helle around 5 min only but mainly in defence . Also few minutes were used Udristioiu,Bazaliu . Manea replaced Frafjord when Marit felt tired and did very well. All the team was at high levell. Congratulations !

On Ljubljana CSM will play for itself (2 golden points) but also for Nykobing(though pression will be great on Nykobing in home with Krim)

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby Doru Delavale » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:03 pm

The difference btwn Podgorica - Metz was done by de Paula . Laslo was all time bench sitter...

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby John » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:18 pm

Doru Delavale wrote:Laslo was all time bench sitter...


She was great when she played but Adzic forces Raicevic who makes the most mistakes. The worst player.
Justice for Laslo.

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby dydiana » Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:07 pm

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Very satisfied with our game yesterday. Congrats to my girls and Helle =D>

Good attitude, good connection, big ambition and big progress as a TEAM. Cris, Bella, Paula, Nathalie and Iulia on high levels. Also a very good game by Line, Marit, Sabina and Oana. I expect from Amanda to take bigger steps in the very near future, if she wants to be a fixture. I'm seeing the will, I'm hoping for more. Helle is back to her normal self, using the girls in a smart way and seeing her tactical plans work.

\:D/ The atmosphere was GREAT, it was the best game in CL so far, everybody encouraging the girls from start til final whistle. Absolutely fantastic feeling, congrats to ourselves too because it was quite the type of evening I missed since last season :cheers:
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:26 pm

For me all the CSM's players were GREAT .... I make NO difference among them when they play so well. Everybody on HER place in order to subdue to the TEAM PLAY. A team play is a matter of holistic affair. We can not have a great team built from 11 Messi(s) !
:-k

And by the way where is Camille Ayglon ?


Amanda ? ! I just say I love ...her (the way that she is)! .... If she get 3 solutions / match when the others players have non that means that is her place into this team. Many put so much pressure on her becauses she is not like their dreams want to be...

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby ugf » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:30 pm

Who was a MVP (match CSM-NFH)?

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby vlad_impaler » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:45 pm

ugf wrote:Who was a MVP (match CSM-NFH)?


Sailor Moon

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby Derp » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:37 pm

Győr - Rostov 25-23
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby CSMthenewpower » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:31 pm

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I'm already waiting for the Main Round where the Group with CSM, Gyor, Rostov, Midtylland, NFH and Krim, promise a lot ! Will be nice to see the defence of Gyor versus the attack of CSM Bucuresti :D \:D/
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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:52 pm

There are rumours that Mydtilland will be sold by football club to local investors and the identity and name will be changed (after 20th of november)....it will be possible ("new team ") not to continue on main round CL 2017/2018 .....? :-k

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Re: 2017/18 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 4

Postby HB9 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:03 pm

Why rumours? It's been official for a few days now.

And the team won't change it's name from the 20. November - just it's new name and other information will be revealed there. But in any case, these changes only take effect from next season.


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