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Re: Road to Tokio 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:13 pm

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Wbk wrote:Important news :!:

In the end, despite the previously announced path, there will be a special olympic qualification event in Africa. It will take place in Senegal in the late September 2019 with four teams participating: Angola, Senegal, DR Congo and Cameroun.

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It will be played in the Dakar Arena, built in 2016-2018, for 15 000 fans =D>

Minus Cameroon :shock: :shock: Three teams remaining.

https://senego.com/handball-tqo-le-came ... 79864.html


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Re: Road to Tokio 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:42 pm

2019 African Olympic Qualification

Day 1 (Sep 26):

ANG - COD 29-21 (19-12)
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:26 pm

Wbk wrote:2019 Asian Olympic Qualification

Day 4 (Sep 27):

PRK-THA 36-16 (18-8)

HKG-KOR 13-41 (4-21)

CHN-KAZ 26-19 (12-10)
The referee nomination was strange as usual: Russian pair was selected. But China was clearly better team today.

China secured at worst 2nd place that means a spot for the Olympic Qualification Tournaments. The Sunday's match China - South Korea is for the direct qualification to Tokyo: Chinese need win, draw is enough for SK.
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby swarthofole » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:20 pm

wait, what if CHN lose and PRK win?
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Gojira » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:29 pm

Wbk wrote:CHN-KAZ 26-19 (12-10)
The referee nomination was strange as usual: Russian pair was selected. But China was clearly better team today.

Who were they? A&B?

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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:35 pm

swarthofole wrote:wait, what if CHN lose and PRK win?

Nothing. CHN, PRK and KAZ will all be on 6p and China is the best team in the CHN - PRK - KAZ minitable.
(The only possibility for 2. PRK, 3. CHN is this: KAZ don't win ag. THA :oops: + PRK win ag. HKG + CHN loss ag. KOR)

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Wbk wrote:CHN-KAZ 26-19 (12-10)
The referee nomination was strange as usual: Russian pair was selected. But China was clearly better team today.

Who were they? A&B?

Exactly.
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Re: Road to Tokio 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:23 pm

Wbk wrote:2019 African Olympic Qualification

Day 2 (Sep 27):

SEN-COD 29-18 (11-8)

Senegal vs. Angola for Tokyo on Sunday at 20:00 CET could be interesting. (Should be live here: https://sangatv.com/direct/rts-1 ) Draw is enough for Senegal.
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:03 pm

Wbk wrote:2019 Asian Olympic Qualification

Final day 5 (Sep 29):

THA-KAZ 17-35 (8-16)

HKG-PRK 14-38 (6-19)

CHN-KOR 20-32 (8-17)
A boring no doubter, nothing changes in Asia when it matters.

1. South Korea --> Tokyo
2. China --> Olympic Qualification Tournaments (for now); they go directly to Tokyo if they ( :lol: ), or KOR win the 2019 WCh
3. North Korea --> in wait for the 2019 WCh ranking; they are ready for OQTs if KOR or CHN win that thing, or if Asia is among top two continents
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:36 pm

Wbk wrote:2019 African Olympic Qualification

Final day 3 (Sep 29):

SEN-ANG 14-22 (6-12)
Tbh expected more from Senegalese, who have like 8 players from the French D1.

1. Angola --> Tokyo
2. Senegal --> Olympic Qualification Tournaments (for now); they go directly to Tokyo if they, or ANG win the 2019 WCh
3. DR Congo --> in wait for the 2019 WCh ranking; they are ready for OQTs if ANG or SEN win that thing, or if Africa is among top two continents



With Asian and African qualification is finished, all continental qualification events are over.


List of already qualified teams (5 out of 12):

Image JAPAN (qualified as: organiser)

Image FRANCE (winner of the 2018 European Championship)

Image BRAZIL (winner of the 2019 Panamerican Games)

Image SOUTH KOREA (winner of the 2019 Asian Olympic qualification)

Image ANGOLA (winner of the 2019 African Olympic qualification)


Road for remaining (7) teams to qualify:

DIRECT QUALIFICATION:

1 team: winner of the 2019 World Championship (scheduled for 30 Nov – 15 Dec 2019 in Kumamoto region, Japan)

:!:
In the qualification system, WCh takes priority over continental qualification events when allocating respective spots for the events. Therefore, the final ranking of the 2019 WCh may retroactively change the consequences of the four continental qualification events (2018 European Championship, 2018 African Nations Cup, 2019 Panamerican Games & 2019 Asian Olympic Qualification). Regarding direct qualification, if the winners of the 2019 WCh, or Japan, were to win their respective continental qualification event, then the next highest-ranked team of the continental event will take the qualification spot.


INDIRECT QUALIFICATION:

6 teams: top two teams from the three 2020 Olympic Qualification Tournaments (scheduled for 19 – 22 Mar 2020; hosts TBA by IHF - hosting not depending on the results of the 2019 WCh)

12 teams in total will compete in the 2020 OQT. Firstly, it will be the best six teams from the 2019 WCh not already qualified for the OG, i.e. if one or more teams which have placed between 2nd-7th at the 2019 WCh have already qualified for Tokyo 2020 at their continental qualification event, then the teams placed 8th onwards will be eligible to participation in the OQT.
The remaining six teams for OQT will qualify via olympic continental qualification events (2018 European Championships, 2018 African Nations Cup, 2019 Panamerican Games, 2019 Asian Olympic Qualification & 2019 African Olympic Qualification). They will consist of the two from the best ranked continent at the 2019 WCh, two from the second-best continent and one each from the third and fourth best continent.

Again, the final ranking of the 2019 WCh may retroactively change the consequences of the four continental qualification events in relation to OQT. If team(s) is/are qualified for OQT via 2019 WCh, then next highest-ranked, non-qualified team(s) of the continental event will take the spot(s) for OQT.

Following teams are currently qualified for the 2020 OQT:
Image RUSSIA (runner-up of the 2018 European Championship)

Image ARGENTINA (runner-up of the 2019 Panamerican Games)

Image CHINA (runner-up of the 2019 Asian Olympic qualification)

Image SENEGAL (runner-up of the 2019 African Olympic qualification)


Not yet qualified national teams with alive possibility to qualify for the 2020 Olympics:

● all NTs qualified for the 2019 World Championship: ARG, AUS, CHN, CRO, CUB, COD, DEN, ESP, GER, HUN, KAZ, MNE, NED, NOR, ROU, RUS, SEN, SLO, SRB, SWE
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby kleber » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:59 am

A nightmare is coming for russia sport dec 9.

Sad that russia national team will not defend their title in tokyo

They can go as neutral flag and with the ioc hymn but i remember the ice hockey olympic gold in 2018 and that was a joke.

Olympic athletes of russia with the ioc flag and hymn lol.
Portugal is in the euro 2008,finaly!!!!!

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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:25 am

kleber wrote:A nightmare is coming for russia sport dec 9.

Why do you call the justice and the truth as a nightmare?

A lie has no legs, but it has wings.
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Gojira » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:44 am

"He is the 2004 Olympic champion in the 100 metres, the 2005 and 2017 World champion in the same event, and the 2005 World champion in the 200 metres. Gatlin was banned from competing between 2006 and 2010 by the USADA for failing a second drugs test, testing positive for testosterone."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Gatlin

So where is justice?

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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:18 am

Gojira wrote:"He is the 2004 Olympic champion in the 100 metres, the 2005 and 2017 World champion in the same event, and the 2005 World champion in the 200 metres. Gatlin was banned from competing between 2006 and 2010 by the USADA for failing a second drugs test, testing positive for testosterone."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Gatlin

So where is justice?

No offense, but study, please, argumentation faults first.
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Gojira » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:58 am

I have to admit I don't really understand you.

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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby kleber » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:06 pm

ban an all countrie from international competitions is pathetic
Portugal is in the euro 2008,finaly!!!!!

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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:43 am

WCh preliminary round is over, Europe and Asia will be top two continents of the 2019 Worlds. This has a following consequence:

Two new teams are qualified for the 2020 Olympic Qualification Tournaments:

Image NETHERLANDS (3rd place at the 2018 European Championship)

Image NORTH KOREA (3rd place at the 2019 Asian Olympic qualification)


Netherlands still with a chance to qualify directly for Tokyo via winning the WCh.



List of all teams already qualified for the 2020 Olympics:
    Image JAPAN (qualified as: organiser)
    Image FRANCE (winner of the 2018 European Championship)
    Image BRAZIL (winner of the 2019 Panamerican Games)
    Image SOUTH KOREA (winner of the 2019 Asian Olympic qualification)
    Image ANGOLA (winner of the 2019 African Olympic qualification)

List of all teams currently qualified for the 2020 Olympic Qualification Tournaments:
    Image RUSSIA (runner-up of the 2018 European Championship)
    Image ARGENTINA (runner-up of the 2019 Panamerican Games)
    Image CHINA (runner-up of the 2019 Asian Olympic qualification)
    Image SENEGAL (runner-up of the 2019 African Olympic qualification)
    Image NETHERLANDS (3rd place at the 2018 European Championship)
    Image NORTH KOREA (3rd place at the 2019 Asian Olympic qualification)
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:48 pm

Finishing 4th in the upcoming Main Round stage group, and thus qualify for the 7th/8th Placement match, could have a price of the gold medal at the ongoing Worlds.

WCh 7th place (8th if KOR is ranked 2nd-7th) gives a spot for the Olympic Qualification Tournament #1 with ARG & SEN. The other two OQTs will include three European teams. (Two best teams from four at each OQT qualify for the Olympics.)

So the Main Round could be an appreciative act when some teams are motivated to show some tragicomedy on purpose.

But imagine the situation when KOR is sure to end in Top6 (could be even better if they are sure 3rd in their MR group, which means they'll play for 5th/6th place). Then the match for 7th/8th may turn to even more scandalous spectacle with both teams strategically aiming to lose this encounter to end 8th.

Lookin' forward how it goes.


Note: Japan can disturb this situation with a very good MR performace, but I didn't include that in the calculations, as it seems unlikely atm.
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Kangaroo » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:53 am

kleber wrote:ban an all countrie from international competitions is pathetic


Sure, but does Russia refuse to cooperate with WADA or not? [-X On the other hand we have the Spanish case of Fuentes where the proofs, the evidence were destroyed. It is the same as manipulation, hiding doping. If WADA would have been fair, Spain would have been also banned. Of course that if Putin holds the media, he will manipulate the Russian people. He will find some more xenophobic reasons.

What sucks is that the fans of Russia and citizens of Russia have nothing to do with the institutions. Unfortunately here I don't see any hidden, occult games against Russia.

Remember this, it was the Russian Doping Chief who said thousands of drug tests were manipulated https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/spor ... pe=Article

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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby HB9 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:28 am

Wbk wrote:But imagine the situation when KOR is sure to end in Top6 (could be even better if they are sure 3rd in their MR group, which means they'll play for 5th/6th place). Then the match for 7th/8th may turn to even more scandalous spectacle with both teams strategically aiming to lose this encounter to end 8th.

I don't like the sound of that. How can this even be possible! [-(

Up until now EVERYONE said that finishing 7th is 100% assured to be in for a qualifying tournament. And now you are saying that is not the case? :?
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:10 am

HB9 wrote:
Wbk wrote:But imagine the situation when KOR is sure to end in Top6 (could be even better if they are sure 3rd in their MR group, which means they'll play for 5th/6th place). Then the match for 7th/8th may turn to even more scandalous spectacle with both teams strategically aiming to lose this encounter to end 8th.

I don't like the sound of that. How can this even be possible! [-(

Up until now EVERYONE said that finishing 7th is 100% assured to be in for a qualifying tournament. And now you are saying that is not the case? :?

I am not.

You didn’t get the point. Try read it again, the whole post. I cannot explain it more precisely than I did.

It’s about getting easier opponents in the OQT.
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby HB9 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:31 am

Ok, I read it again. In a nutshell: 8th = easy qualifying group, 7th = difficult qualifying group. But 8th will only give you Olympic qualifying if Korea is ranked 2-7 at this WC.

Happy now or do I have to read it a third time? 8:)

Either way, it's still farcial.
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:43 am

HB9 wrote:Ok, I read it again. In a nutshell: 8th = easy qualifying group, 7th = difficult qualifying group. But 8th will only give you Olympic qualifying if Korea is ranked 2-7 at this WC.

Happy now or do I have to read it a third time? 8:)

Either way, it's still farcial.

Good.

Well, it was written it’s better when KOR is sure for 5th/6th placement match.

But even if KOR is in the semifinals (at that time), I can still easily imagine some people from some countries speculating with the outcome “KOR is not going to win it all”.
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Stefan_MNE » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:18 pm

Actually, the best scenario would be the following: KOR finishes 4th in Group 1. In that case, no. 4 in Group 2 would automatically qualify for the OQT with Argentina and Senegal and the 7/8 placement match would be a popcorn petrecere. :cheers:

*(provided that JPN is not among top 3 in Gr 2)

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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby Wbk » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:17 pm

After today it's clear that the 2019 World champion will be from Europe. Thus, Europe is top and Asia 2nd best continent at the Worlds.
Definitive consequences of that: CHN goes to OQT#2 & PRK goes to OQT#3.


The current OQTs composition (definitive spots only):

OQT#1: ___, ___, SEN, ARG

OQT#2: ___, ___, CHN, ___

OQT#3: ___, ___, ___, PRK


RUS/IOA & NED also sure for OQT at least, but they still have a chance to qualify directly for Tokyo via winning the WCh.
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Re: Road to Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Postby HB9 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:33 pm

Dutch team only confirm today that they are qualified: https://www.handbal.nl/blog/2019/12/09/ ... r-het-okt/
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