2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

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2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby bajkalb » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:19 am

13.10.2018
Larvik - Buducost
Brest Bretagne - Rostov-Don
IK Sävehof - Kobenhavn Handball
RK Krim Mercator - Thüringer HC

14.10.2018
Odense HC - Metz
HC Podravka - Győri Audi ETO KC
FTC - Vipers
Bietigheim - CSM Bucuresti



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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby Corbantis » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:55 pm

13.10.2018
Larvik - Buducost
Brest Bretagne - Rostov-Don
IK Sävehof - Kobenhavn Handball
RK Krim Mercator - Thüringer HC

14.10.2018
Odense HC - Metz
HC Podravka - Győri Audi ETO KC
FTC - Vipers
Bietigheim - CSM Bucuresti

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby Doru Delavale » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:23 pm

Talking about GYOR vs CSM Bucuresti chances to win 2019 CL trophy we had to conclude there are some differences of lots btwn these 2 clubs : Gyor have 24 players (including 8 hungarians young players 16-22 years age ,plus a young slovakian GK,plus controversated ...retired or not Broch...plus a very bad injuried Nora Mork (RB !!) that means... 11 fieldplayers if datas oferred by http://www.ehfcl.com/en/women/clubs/HgY ... udi_ETO_KC are right .
On the other hand CSM have 18 players mostly of them age btwn 27-36 field players [13] ( plus GK Ungureanu 38 !)...and remained only 4 fieldplayers age btwn 19-22( Bianca Marin 19, GK Madalina Ion 22,Bianca Bazaliu 22,Omoregie 22).

The first rising question is that : will be able junior hungarian players to compete in harsh CL matches ?

and second, if slice ascendancy in number of experienced players 13-11 will be an advantage to CSM or shall be compensated this with the superiority of Gyor's GKs ?


......in comparison with , Thuringer have 29 players...

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby bajkalb » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:01 pm

Doru Delavale wrote:Talking about GYOR vs CSM Bucuresti chances to win 2019 CL trophy we had to conclude there are some differences of lots btwn these 2 clubs : Gyor have 24 players (including 8 hungarians young players 16-22 years age ,plus a young slovakian GK,plus controversated ...retired or not Broch...plus a very bad injuried Nora Mork (RB !!) that means... 11 fieldplayers if datas oferred by http://www.ehfcl.com/en/women/clubs/HgY ... udi_ETO_KC are right .
On the other hand CSM have 18 players mostly of them age btwn 27-36 field players [13] ( plus GK Ungureanu 38 !)...and remained only 4 fieldplayers age btwn 19-22( Bianca Marin 19, GK Madalina Ion 22,Bianca Bazaliu 22,Omoregie 22).

The first rising question is that : will be able junior hungarian players to compete in harsh CL matches ?

and second, if slice ascendancy in number of experienced players 13-11 will be an advantage to CSM or shall be compensated this with the superiority of Gyor's GKs ?


......in comparison with , Thuringer have 29 players...


Doru, you overthink this a bit :-)

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby LucianK » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:25 pm

Doru Delavale wrote:Talking about GYOR vs CSM Bucuresti chances to win 2019 CL trophy we had to conclude there are some differences of lots btwn these 2 clubs : Gyor have 24 players (including 8 hungarians young players 16-22 years age ,plus a young slovakian GK,plus controversated ...retired or not Broch...plus a very bad injuried Nora Mork (RB !!) that means... 11 fieldplayers if datas oferred by http://www.ehfcl.com/en/women/clubs/HgY ... udi_ETO_KC are right .
On the other hand CSM have 18 players mostly of them age btwn 27-36 field players [13] ( plus GK Ungureanu 38 !)...and remained only 4 fieldplayers age btwn 19-22( Bianca Marin 19, GK Madalina Ion 22,Bianca Bazaliu 22,Omoregie 22).

The first rising question is that : will be able junior hungarian players to compete in harsh CL matches ?

and second, if slice ascendancy in number of experienced players 13-11 will be an advantage to CSM or shall be compensated this with the superiority of Gyor's GKs ?


......in comparison with , Thuringer have 29 players...


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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby vlad_impaler » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:30 pm

#-o

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby Derp » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:37 am

bajkalb wrote:
Doru Delavale wrote:Talking about GYOR vs CSM Bucuresti chances to win 2019 CL trophy we had to conclude there are some differences of lots btwn these 2 clubs : Gyor have 24 players (including 8 hungarians young players 16-22 years age ,plus a young slovakian GK,plus controversated ...retired or not Broch...plus a very bad injuried Nora Mork (RB !!) that means... 11 fieldplayers if datas oferred by http://www.ehfcl.com/en/women/clubs/HgY ... udi_ETO_KC are right .
On the other hand CSM have 18 players mostly of them age btwn 27-36 field players [13] ( plus GK Ungureanu 38 !)...and remained only 4 fieldplayers age btwn 19-22( Bianca Marin 19, GK Madalina Ion 22,Bianca Bazaliu 22,Omoregie 22).

The first rising question is that : will be able junior hungarian players to compete in harsh CL matches ?

and second, if slice ascendancy in number of experienced players 13-11 will be an advantage to CSM or shall be compensated this with the superiority of Gyor's GKs ?


......in comparison with , Thuringer have 29 players...


Doru, you overthink this a bit :-)


Not at all!
As told by Doru
Győr has 8*(16-22)+16 = -32
CSM has 14*(27-36)+38+4(19-22) = -101
-32 > -101
This is pure math...
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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby John » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:56 am

13.10.2018
Larvik - Buducnost 10%-90%
I just think Buducnost is better at this moment. That's all.

Brest Bretagne - Rostov-Don 60%-40%
Brest is stronger at home, and after the initial shock they will want to show EHF experts that they can count on them :lol:

IK Sävehof - Kobenhavn Handball 0%-100%
Savehof has 2 players that are older than 1995. The rest are mostly '95,'98, '99, '00, '01. And their coach is 29 years old. I think CPH is more experienced and should win this otherwise they should be ashamed.

RK Krim Mercator - Thüringer HC 60%-40%
Hmmm. Really hard to predict. Krim is more dangerous at home, THC with their sh***y defense and they never seem to be complete. If Hubinger, Mitrovic and others who are missing are back then maybe THC can win but, if not Krim can beat them.


14.10.2018
Odense HC - Metz 60%-40%
Odense is a sold team, with some really good individuals, plays good at home and Metz is awful away. I can see Odense beating them but it won't be easy.

HC Podravka - Győri Audi ETO KC 0%-100%
No comment.

FTC - Vipers 70%-30%
FTC is home, Vipers is not impressive, so i definitely expect FTC to beat them. Otherwise they can say bye bye to Main round.

Bietigheim - CSM Bucuresti 30%-70%
I would be shocked if CSM loses.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby HB9 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:02 am

John wrote:If Hubinger, Mitrovic and others who are missing are back then maybe THC can win but, if not Krim can beat them.

Mitrovic left THC last week for "personal reasons". Hubinger is out for at least 4 weeks because of persistent pain in her foot she badly injured a year ago.
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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby vlad_impaler » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:22 pm

John wrote:13.10.2018
Larvik - Buducnost 0%-301%
I just think Buducnost is better at this moment. That's all.

Brest Bretagne - Rostov-Don 96%-4%
Brest is stronger at home, and after the initial shock they will want to show EHF experts that they can count on them :lol:

IK Sävehof - Kobenhavn Handball 0%-500%
Savehof has 2 players that are older than 1995. The rest are mostly '95,'98, '99, '00, '01. And their coach is 29 years old. I think CPH is more experienced and should win this otherwise they should be ashamed.

HC Podravka - Győri Audi ETO KC 0%-300%

Bietigheim - CSM Bucuresti 70%-30%
I would be shocked if CSM loses.


What tot say about this? Although I do agree with Buducnost.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby Lucy » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:37 pm

FTC - Vipers

Last year Vipers won againt Buducnost, Lada, Brest, Viborg, Craiova, Copenhagen, Paris
Last year Vipers lost againt Buducnost, Lada, Brest, Viborg, Craiova, Copenhagen, Paris

Thats why I never played on Vipers at booking and odds
I not quit sure about this FTC team this year.
Hope Vipers can give FTC match

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby dydiana » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:25 pm

13.10.2018
Larvik - Buducnost
Brest - Rostov
Savehof - Copenhagen
Krim - Thuringer

14.10.2018
Odense - Metz
Podravka - Gyor
FTC - Vipers
Bietigheim - CSM Bucureşti

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby dydiana » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:32 am

So, after first round gave us the surprise of Brest losing to CPH and Podravka beating THC, this time Buducnost loses to a young and unexperienced Larvik (if I may say) and Rostov draws with Brest. Now I fear today will give us maybe more unexpected results :-k

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby Jig » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:30 pm

Podravka Koprivnica–Győri Audi ETO KC 27–33 (15–17)

PODRAVKA: Riszovics – Turk 2, JEZSNYIKAVA 4, Iknyeva 2, Debelic 3, CSIGIRINOVA 9 (2), HOLESOVA 4,Ecimovic, Tucakovic, Dzono, Milosavljevic 2, Milosevic, Karlovcan 1, Zadravec.
GYŐR: Leynaud – Knedliková 3, Groot 3 (3), Brattset 2, E. AMORIM 8, OFTEDAL 8 (1), Puhalák 1,Kiss É., GRIMSBÖ, Bódi 3, Hansen 1, Kristiansen 1, FODOR 3.


FTC-RAIL CARGO HUNGARIA–VIPERS KRISTIANSAND 27–26 (17–14)

FTC: BÍRÓ B. – Lukács V. 1, Pena 5 (4), KOVACSICS 7 (3), SNELDER 6, HÁFRA N. 5, Schatzl Nadine 2, Hornyák D., Mészáros R. 1, Klivinyi, Faluvégi D., Márton G.
VIPERS: KATRINE LUNDE – Aune 3, SULLAND 6 (2), Tomac 1, Yttereng, J. Kristiansen 3, K. Olsen, Fagerheim, Waade, M. Kristensen 3, Arntzen 1, REISTAD 6, Jonassen 3.

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GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC: 5 X CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WINNER (2013,2014,2017,2018,2019) 15 X HUNGARIAN CHAMPION (1957,1959,2005,2006,2008-2014,2016,2017,2018,2019, 14 X HUNGARIAN CUP WINNER (2005-2016, 2018,2019)

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby swarthofole » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:00 pm

I mean no disrespect for BBM, but if someone would have told me they will lead the group after two games, I would have called him/ her a fool. I guess I know nothing about handball... :lol:
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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby OltchimRmValcea » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:31 pm

BBM is a solid team again (as they did back in 2016/2017 season), and perhaps there are still room for improvement as Loerper and Kudlacz are not 100% ready. Eckerle and Van der Heijden are great signings, Naidzinavicius with great apetit after injury and Schulze very good form (at NT as well). Bear in mind they played qualification and are much more prepared than CSM this period of then season. ;) Just look at Podravka, they also look very good!

A well deserved 1st place and all the credit to germans. =D>
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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby swarthofole » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:13 pm

OltchimRmValcea wrote:BBM is a solid team again (as they did back in 2016/2017 season), and perhaps there are still room for improvement as Loerper and Kudlacz are not 100% ready. Eckerle and Van der Heijden are great signings, Naidzinavicius with great apetit after injury and Schulze very good form (at NT as well). Bear in mind they played qualification and are much more prepared than CSM this period of then season. ;) Just look at Podravka, they also look very good!

A well deserved 1st place and all the credit to germans. =D>


I didn't say they don't deserve it. I said it was unexpected for me.
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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby Mr. 007 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:27 pm

Fighting spirit back in Larvik :)

Larvik HK – Buducnost 23-22 (12–12)

It was WAR...no respect for the primadonnas :) Defense rocked hard, and it looks like we finally have a real team back in Larvik again, after a long total nightmare so far...

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With the team finally shaping up, guess who's back next season?

Heidi Løke!!! :)

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We are back on track again :)

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby Hajas » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:44 pm

ok, she will be 37 years old next season, good luck with that

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby Doru Delavale » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:42 pm

Seems that today [15.10.18] Magnus J. was sacked...provisional (?) coach, Vlad Caba.... probably new choach, Mette Klit.http://www.ziare.com/brasov/stiri-sport ... ul-7448710

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby bajkalb » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:14 pm

Well, a scandinavian coach again. Congrat ;)

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 2

Postby Doru Delavale » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:23 pm

bajkalb wrote:Well, a scandinavian coach again. Congrat ;)


Another name Kim R. but I think hungarian federation take already measures (in Kim's contract) to discourage such move...

Well...., this story scandinavian or not-scandinavian is just a rain-watter, both Klit or Kim have hot blood !(oh,I forgot Per) :lol:


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