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Asian Championship 2018

Postby williamn123 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:19 am

Does anybody know about the upcoming championship happening in Japan? I can't seem to find any informations anywhere about the respective teams and what players they are bringing. :)



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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby mikh » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:49 pm

Day 1

Group A:
Australia - Kazakhstan 24:32 (15:15) too bad for the Aussies, but seemes they were able to be competitive for quite a while against a team that will attempt WCh qualification
New Zealand - Japan 5:41
Iran bye

Group B:
Singapore - China 7:35
India - South Korea 10:37
Hong Kong bye

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Wbk » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:32 am

mikh wrote:Day 1

Group A:
Australia - Kazakhstan 24:32 (15:15) too bad for the Aussies, but seemes they were able to be competitive for quite a while against a team that will attempt WCh qualification

There’s an obvious explanation: the presence of Sally Potocki. Remember when Aussies were finally kinda decent at a WCh having her in the lineup in Serbia 2013.
Btw, Australia should attemp WCh qualification alone, as there’s a specifical qualification rule for Oceania’s participants at Asian Champs. If Oceanian team (the top one) is ranked 5th or better here, the team is qualified to WCh.

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby mikh » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:23 am

Oh, you're right, I forgot about that one! That should be very much doable since they need to win vs. Iran and NZ in the group and then India/Hong Kong/Singapore in the playoff. HK could be the most threatening there. But which place will they get in this case, the wild card one?

In the meantime, results from day 2:

Group A
Iran - Kazakhstan 26:41
Australia - Japan 18:37
NZ bye

Group B
HK - China 10:36
Singapore - Korea 9:41
India bye

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Wbk » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:35 am

mikh wrote:Oh, you're right, I forgot about that one! That should be very much doable since they need to win vs. Iran and NZ in the group and then India/Hong Kong/Singapore in the playoff. HK could be the most threatening there. But which place will they get in this case, the wild card one?

In the current qualification system for 2019 WCh, the wild card only exists if the Oceanian representative fails to qualify.

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby mikh » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:20 am

williamn123 wrote:I can't seem to find any informations anywhere about the respective teams and what players they are bringing.

The match sheets are uploaded here, so you can check the rosters and the players performances.

In the meantime, results from day 3.

Group A
Kazakhstan - New Zealand 51:14
Australia - Iran 29:24 (12:11) =D>
Japan bye

Group B
China - India 29:12
Singapore - Hong Kong 12:25
Korea bye

With these results Kazakhstan and China seal their semifinal places and are already qualified for the WCh next year. They will most likely be followed by Korea and Japan.

Like @Wbk said, the 5-8 bracket is valuable only if Australia/NZ wins it to take the direct WCh spot.

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Wbk » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:33 am

An interesting remark:

Hannah Mouncey is playing for Aussie at this tournament.

So far (s)he scored 4 + 4 + 4 in first three Australia's games.

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby mikh » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:21 pm

Day 4

Group A
New Zealand - Australia 12:28 (Mouncey was goal scorer today with 6)
Iran - Japan 8:31

Group B
Hong Kong - South Korea 17:37
India - Singapore 22:17

Now it's official: Korea, Kazakhstan and China take the 3 Asian places for the WCh.
Australia secure 3rd place in group A and a good position for the 5-8 bracket. In the first match, they will meet the loser of India - HK (tomorrow).
Oceania might end up chasing qualification for the WCh with two teams if NZ defeats Iran tomorrow morning.

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby mikh » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:00 am

Day 5

Group A
New Zealand - Iran 19:38
Japan - Kazakhstan 31:24

Group B
South Korea - China 24:21 seemed like a tight affair, China making progress
India - Hong Kong 29:30

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby mikh » Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:16 pm

Matches on Dec 7

Semifinals
South Korea - Kazakhstan 31:23 (after some very tight first 40 mins or so)
Japan - China 16:17, 20:19, 20:21, 21:21, 23:21 FT

5-8 bracket
Australia - India 31:27 Some footage here https://www.facebook.com/AHFKuwait/vide ... 709816015/ Check out the Aussie version of Crina Pintea on line player!
Hong Kong - Iran 17:19 (was expecting a different outcome here)

9th place playoff
New Zealand - Singapore 18:20

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Wbk » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:33 am

mikh wrote:Dec 8

5th place playoff Australia - Iran
7th place playoff India - Hong Kong

If Australia wins they qualify for the WCh! Otherwise Iran might get a repechage spot if such a tournament will be organised (nobody knows with the IHF). Come on Aussies!

If Australia fails to qualify, Iran gets nothing, there will be no repechage tournament or anything like that. Just a classic wild-card, and one can be quite sure it will be awarded for the most powerful continent (continent of the reigning world champion) = Europe. The same procedure as it was in case of the 2017 WCh when Poland was wild-carded, i.e. just wait and hope for your lucky day.

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Lucy » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:59 pm

Group B
South Korea - China 24:21 seemed like a tight affair, China making progress
India - Hong Kong 29:30[/quote]

China lost 29-17 to Norway B
So they are fare behind

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Joana » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:02 pm

South Korea seems to be regressing, based on these results? God, we cannot afford to lose another top non-European team.
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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Wbk » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:26 am

mikh wrote:China making progress

China is in the 'all or nothing' position.

Jörn-Uwe Lommel (GER), current China's NT coach: The goal is the Olympic qualification in September 2019 at our home. That's why I do that. Originally, I was supposed to build the men's team, but then the Federation decided that the money that is there should be put into women's handball. Handball is fighting a survival battle in China. The government says, "We sponsored eight years and you did not qualify twice for the Olympics, and if the qualifiers do not come now, you will not get any more money." This is not fun, Olympia is the measure of things there.
https://www.handball-world.news/o.red.r ... 34789.html

They seem to fight it bravely so far. But will it be enough in the end?


Joana wrote:South Korea seems to be regressing, based on these results? God, we cannot afford to lose another top non-European team.

Don't think so. They were already competing ath the Asian Games earlier this year, now there is room for some other players to show their capability. In fact they have 1,5-2 decent rosters, therefore I guess they are just in find of their best for the Olympic qualification events.

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby mikh » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:34 am

Dec 8

5th place playoff
Australia - Iran 30:24 (13:12) =D> \:D/ :cheers:

7th place playoff
India - Hong Kong 27:31

Australia did it! Congratulations Aussies! They're back in the WCh, this time the tough way! I hope they can build on their participation in the Asian competition and properly develop this sport down south!

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby mikh » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:42 am

I kind of assumed that China is targeting the Olympics, but I didn't know the pressure is so high. What their coach is telling is mind blowing. Plans are changing over night, but you still have to deliver and seems they have no idea how difficult qualifying for the Olympics is. Regardless of hosting the tournament, the obvious progress they made, they're fighting an uphill battle and I don't think they can take Korea's place (unless they pull a "Kazakhstan 2012"), and even less go through an OQT.
In any case, it shouldn't be easy to have the faith of the Chinese handball on your shoulders!

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Germanicus » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 pm

What about Hannah Mouncey?
In conclusion, I declare that EHF must be destroyed

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Wbk » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:40 pm

Germanicus wrote:What about Hannah Mouncey?

What do you exactly mean under the 'what about'?

Allowed to compete by IHF, scored 23 goals in 6 matches.

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Re: Asian Championship 2018

Postby Wbk » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:24 am

Bronze medal match
KAZAKHSTAN 21-27 (11-13) CHINA

Final
JAPAN 25-30 (15-14) SOUTH KOREA


I have to say the bronze China are the team of the tournament for me. They came with U25, but mostly like U23 squad here. Though they managed to give a real fight to both Korea and host Japan. The German coach and staff doing great job. As there is obviosuly a lot of potential in Chinese players, I hope their progress can be even bigger.


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