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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Doru Delavale » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:37 pm

dydiana wrote:I actually feel like this season will be an interesting one. I think there will be more matches like this one (Zalău-Csm) for every contending team, the refereeing was biased and it actually killed the start of the season. I am looking forward to see which teams will provide clean surprises though.

Also, I am waiting to see how Vâlcea will do in both competitions, new challenge. Cheering for them to do well in CL.

Csm is missing 4 important pieces at this start of season: Neagu, Omoregie, Cvijic and now Mork. Carmen also has problems and couldnt start properly. But we will recover, the potential is there.


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I red comments on https://www.facebook.com/CSMBOfficial/? ... EsX984TB5w and I saw that CSM's fans are divided , some speak only of refereeing (pro Zalau) another only of weakness of CSM and of mercenarism,lack of Ryde"s reaction...the fact is this kind of referees you can meet in CL either , no problem ...so the "exercise" was good. In Craiova,Cisnadie,Zalau,Brasov,Baia Mare ,Bistrita,Buzau,Braila (a lot of "B") it will be hard for the 2 "big".So "titanydes",as Tadici call them,must prepare for a long ,difficult way towards the title. This is not Muntenegru's or Macedonia's "championship"...and you can not win the title with only 8-10 valuable players. Even so I wonder if Buducnost will be able to reach F4 with only 7-8 big players . Many matches here on RO chmpshp will be on the edge and on this conditions the role of referees increase. We hope if will be mistakes ,will be fewer and without intention.



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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby dydiana » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:15 pm

Yes, Ryde had very shy, late and unfortunate reactions against Zalău (not the case against Vâlcea). In the first half he didnt even use his TO card, even if the score was tight. And in the second, he used one late, too late. Bad decisions, late replacements, wrong changes and poor spirit.

The atmosphere seemed to be missing, no one looked like they were there to fully play, to support eachother and to win the points. Only ones who were there: Chiper, Klikovac, Dedu, Grbic, Perianu, Linnea. But defence was killed with all those suspensions, some given too easy. Then they got soft and let Zalău to score some easy goals.

As I said, the season is long enough for surprises. I think it will be tighter than the last years.

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:02 am

Two pair of ro referees were suspended (ceased) 1year , 6 month respectively because their errors changed final scores to Zalau-CSM (fem) and Turda- CSM (men) : ( Paul Iacob - Silviu Savu and Nacu - Rucoi ) . The last 30 sec rule and another 14 litigious sequences....

https://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/zal ... 76480.html

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:14 am

GSP presents a list of CSM's salaries .Crina Pintea missed the list . WHY ? Linnea Torstensen also.

https://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/csm ... 76456.html

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby HB9 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:02 pm

Doru Delavale wrote:Two pair of ro referees were suspended (ceased) 1year , 6 month respectively because their errors changed final scores to Zalau-CSM (fem) and Turda- CSM (men) : ( Paul Iacob - Silviu Savu and Nacu - Rucoi ) . The last 30 sec rule and another 14 litigious sequences....

https://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/zal ... 76480.html

Um, it's been deleted?
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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:37 pm

HB9 wrote:
Doru Delavale wrote:Two pair of ro referees were suspended (ceased) 1year , 6 month respectively because their errors changed final scores to Zalau-CSM (fem) and Turda- CSM (men) : ( Paul Iacob - Silviu Savu and Nacu - Rucoi ) . The last 30 sec rule and another 14 litigious sequences....

https://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/zal ... 76480.html

Um, it's been deleted?


Unbelievable, it was deleted ? Without any explanation ?

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:42 pm

Craiova -Zalau 27-26 (12-16)
Țicu 10, Vizitiu 6, Șelaru 5 g,Nikolici 3, Tudorică 1, V. Ion 1, Orșivschi 1.
Dana Abed Kader 8, Cr. Nica 6, Tecar 5, Severin 3, T. Popescu 2, Mihart 1, L. Șerban 1
https://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/cra ... 76533.html

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby HB9 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:52 pm

Doru Delavale wrote:
HB9 wrote:
Doru Delavale wrote:Two pair of ro referees were suspended (ceased) 1year , 6 month respectively because their errors changed final scores to Zalau-CSM (fem) and Turda- CSM (men) : ( Paul Iacob - Silviu Savu and Nacu - Rucoi ) . The last 30 sec rule and another 14 litigious sequences....

https://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/zal ... 76480.html

Um, it's been deleted?


Unbelievable, it was deleted ? Without any explanation ?

I hoped you'd able to say more. :D

Maybe there was no suspension and the news wasn't true.

I thought that went a bit fast anyway....I mean, the game was on sunday and then they are supposedly gone a mere two days later? Sounds very odd to me.
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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby swarthofole » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:13 pm

nope, it's here :D :
https://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/csm ... 76456.html

though I consider this topic becomes more and more about CSM... I know they are important, but let's not turn this into an worship church.
@Doru, please post this kind of news on CSM's thread
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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby HB9 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:18 pm


But that is the article about salaries, not about referees.
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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Silviu » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:12 pm

@HB9: please check here. Only they are quoting the same article from GSP.ro, now disappeared.

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby HB9 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:59 am

I expected that someone quoted them since then. :) But the source disappeared and thus the whole thing might not be true after all?

Does no one find it odd that it only took around 48 hours from the 'incident' to the verdict? (assuming that it's true) That's like ordering a pizza to your home and a mere 5 seconds later the delivery arrives. "Ok, great that you are here so early, but maybe that was bit too fast?" :D
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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby swarthofole » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:04 am

HB9 wrote:

But that is the article about salaries, not about referees.

Sorry, HB9, I meant this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.gsp.ro/article/576480

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby HB9 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:14 am

@swarthofole, I feel you are playing some kind of elaborate joke on me. :D Because that's yet another link which leads to nowhere in particular! :lol:
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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Domokos Pál » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:20 am

HB9 wrote:@swarthofole, I feel you are playing some kind of elaborate joke on me. :D Because that's yet another link which leads to nowhere in particular! :lol:


It's still available in Google's memory:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/ ... clnk&gl=hu

But not for long. Read it fast.

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby HB9 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:26 am

Thank you, I already saw it yesterday. But you are all missing my point - why was it deleted in the first place and is there a real *official* source for this? That's the important thing, isn't it.
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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Domokos Pál » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:47 am

HB9 wrote:Thank you, I already saw it yesterday. But you are all missing my point - why was it deleted in the first place and is there a real *official* source for this? That's the important thing, isn't it.


I don't know.

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby OltchimRmValcea » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:54 am

HB9 wrote:Thank you, I already saw it yesterday. But you are all missing my point - why was it deleted in the first place and is there a real *official* source for this? That's the important thing, isn't it.

There is no official source yet. I guess he (journalist) just heard a rumour from someone and later he realised his mistake. #-o
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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Silviu » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:31 pm

@Domokos Pál: Thank you, now I saved it at Wayback Machine, just to be sure :p.

@HB9: be advised, Marian Ursescu is probably the less reliable source in the entire Romanian sports press. Anyway, an official statement should have been posted here, but it isn't and it never was (I also checked on it yesterday). I can only hope that a 'secret source' just made fun of Mr. Ursescu and the newspaper's management will forbid him to write articles for awhile :D.

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby wossen » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:54 am

Doru Delavale wrote:Craiova -Zalau 27-26 (12-16)
Țicu 10, Vizitiu 6, Șelaru 5 g,Nikolici 3, Tudorică 1, V. Ion 1, Orșivschi 1.
Dana Abed Kader 8, Cr. Nica 6, Tecar 5, Severin 3, T. Popescu 2, Mihart 1, L. Șerban 1
https://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/cra ... 76533.html

The game was scheduled at Tuesday 11. AM. There was no legal holiday in Romania (or?) and no tv-transmission at TVR

Isnt't Craiova interested in spectators? The throw-off-times in romania are generell enigmatic (e.g. practical no evening games, many games in the week during worktime)

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Doru Delavale » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:38 am

Fri, 06/ Rapid Bucuresti - Bistrita TVR hd 17 RO time (16 CET)
Fri, 06/ CSM - Buzau TVR hd 19,15 RO time (18,15 CET)
Sun,08/ Brasov - Braila TVR 1 17,30 RO time (16,30 CET)

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Doru Delavale » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:20 am

Carmen Ilie Selaru was one of surprising player of Round 1 and Round 2 . Because Bobana Klikovac has no right to work yet ( :roll: ) and because Timea Tatar has health problem, coach Burcea had to find a solution for pivot (Selaru,LW) and succeed brilliantly !
"La Multi Ani !" Carmen, and go ahead...
Craiova must play 3 matches in 5 days !

https://handbalmagazin.ro/aproape-jumat ... l-nu-merg/

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Doru Delavale » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:26 pm

Cluj - BAIA MARE 21-23 (7-10)

Cluj: Prodan, Țăgean – Gandulfo 7/9 (unul din 7m), Ani Senocico 4/9 (4 from 7m), Chintoan 4/5, Lazăr 2/10, Preda 1/2, Dindiligan 1/3, Moraru 1/1, Boian 1/3, Mincu, Pica, Drăgunoiu, R. Tamas. Coach: Alin Bondar
BM: Ana Maria Măzăreanu, Cristina Enache – Yaroslava Burlachenko 4/4, Sylwia Lisewska 4/5, Marija Shteriova 4/7, Oana Cîrstea 3/5, Sonia Seraficeanu 3/7, Oana Bondar 2/2, Roxana Szolosi 2/3 (2 from 7m), Paulina Masna 1/2, Andreea Popa 0/1, Larisa Tămaș, Petruța Argyelan, Eva Kerekes, Anca Polocoșer, Oana Borș. Coaches Costică Buceschi, Magda Kovacs și Claudia Cetățeanu.

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:25 pm

BRASOV --BRAILA 28 -24 (15-12)

Dache was a surprisingly player for me . She proved so much progress in her playing . She had some tremendous penetrations through on dribling. When she was to CSM-Rapid-Braila (last seazon) she was so shy... But now she look as great character .May be she met her suit coach ? Bravo,Elena > =D> Good job also pivot Safta. Udristioiu began not very tough and made some errors but then she shew class. Dissapointing Tiron (all the match), Dmitrovic (very good FH but weak on SH,her old problem,lack of constance...) Czeczi only a shadow this match, may be lack of angagements for her, Axinte also weak game .

Brasov lead almost all the time (except first minutes) and go to 7 difference FH after Braila no scoring bwn min 13-25...then Braila after TO regain ant try to recover...In the SH Braila had 3-4 chances to close to only one goal and put the pressure on Brasov but missed every time . Better team won, but I'm sure Braila will increase their game on near future (next games) .

On the other side noticed outstanding player Tirca who scored a lot but from too many throwings (my impression was around 55-60%)
I wonder if coach Craciun don't forced her too many minutes risking an injury because her body has a teenish appearance (adolescens frailty). She looks like a child among the others...Babyface killer ! :lol:
Bianca Bazaliu is not to Craciun's taste either? She played only 3-4 min SH... The rest of the team was on "graphic".

Tirca 7, Laslo 6, Buceschi 4, Chiricuta 4, Ciuciulete 4, Bucur 3.
Dache 6 , Dmitrovic 6 (4), Tiron 4, Udriștioiu 4, Czeczi 2, Safta 1, Axinte 1.

Statistics from club's facebooks ( from watching live tv my impression was Safta scored more then only one goal)

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Re: Romanian League 2019/2020

Postby Domokos Pál » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:59 am

Silviu wrote:@Domokos Pál: Thank you, now I saved it at Wayback Machine, just to be sure :p.

@HB9: be advised, Marian Ursescu is probably the less reliable source in the entire Romanian sports press. Anyway, an official statement should have been posted here, but it isn't and it never was (I also checked on it yesterday). I can only hope that a 'secret source' just made fun of Mr. Ursescu and the newspaper's management will forbid him to write articles for awhile :D.


Interestingly, the article is still up here:
https://amp.gsp.ro/article/576480


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