About the CSM Bucharest project

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby vlad_impaler » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:55 pm

Go away, troll!

Here we talk about indoor sport, secondly Arena Națională is covered and built by Boegl and Astaldi, it's a 5-star stadium with retractable roof (only about 10 in Europe are like that). Examples? National Stadium of Warsaw which is the most similar but a bit better (430 million euros), whilst Sweden and Lille, France paid around 300 million euros for their stadiums. So 235 is much? Turkey built the stadium of Galatasaray Istanbul, with no retractable roof, with 250 million euros. And Turkey is comparable with Romania.

New Polyvalent Hall will also be a masterpiece. Do we compare Audi Arena in Gyor with Budapest Arena or what? Delay? It's not up to you when they build it, there is a large council in the capital. Now they have funds. Some countries didn't even get a new national stadium, only new halls.

Stop comparing normal architectures with masterpieces. But I told you are a retarded troll. Do you know how much money pays Hungary for the new Puskas Ferenc Stadium? A lot more, if I tell you the price you will see our price was correct.. And I don't even think it's covered!

Poland and Romania are the only countries in this region with such stadiums. The National Stadium from Kiev was not built from 0. I don't know about Poland with 430, but Romania got the lowest price possible (235) - I gave arguments.

And do you see any capital with a lousy new indoor arena (hall)? All are built with 60-90 million euros in our area. With 15-30 you build in province, countryside. Bucharest could have built 5 halls like Cluj, but it's different architecture and material.



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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby swarthofole » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:07 pm

Yeah, all that + they will cover it in gold with nice comfortable armchairs and free beer. Come on, vlad, we are talking here about Romanian politicians. Or you forgot about the tremendous number of highways in our country? I suggest you to keep your passion for handball, not for PSD. 8:)
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby vlad_impaler » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:24 pm

Let's not debate too much, please, I don't discuss politics and that user was a troll. I am not specialist in highways but if you want I can comment via PM after the RTV guy will be questioned (probably the incapacity of working via blocking was a lie).

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CSM Bucharest, letters of intent to the EHF to organise the Final 4

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:07 am

Nicolae Luca declared for ProSport LIVE that CSM Bucharest already sent a letter of intent to the EHF to organise Final 4 but it was still preferred Budapest. Now they candidated with Cluj-Napoca and EHF didn't say no. They are willing to repeat the letter, with Cluj-Napoca before 2020, or if not then Bucharest will surely want to host in 2020 with the new indoor of the club.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu May 18, 2017 9:47 pm

If I heard well on TV channel a sponsors law was adopted in Romania wich will allow that a percent ( 6 or 10% ? ) of local town budget could be used in sponsoring teams...

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Raven » Thu May 18, 2017 9:59 pm

Doru Delavale wrote:If I heard well on TV channel a sponsors law was adopted in Romania wich will allow that a percent ( 6 or 10% ? ) of local town budget could be used in sponsoring teams...


it's 5%.
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby bajkalb » Fri May 19, 2017 8:26 am

Raven wrote:
Doru Delavale wrote:If I heard well on TV channel a sponsors law was adopted in Romania wich will allow that a percent ( 6 or 10% ? ) of local town budget could be used in sponsoring teams...


it's 5%.


Not cler. Hasn't it been allowed until now? What's the difference

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby swarthofole » Fri May 19, 2017 2:44 pm

Just to be short, bajkalb, in Romania the local authorities are not allowed to pay the salaries, but they can pay the other expenses of a club.
I didn't hear about this initiative, but if that's true, I assume they want to raise a bit the percentage.
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Re: CSM Bucharest, letters of intent to the EHF to organise the Final 4

Postby silvius » Fri May 19, 2017 7:07 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:Nicolae Luca declared for ProSport LIVE that CSM Bucharest already sent a letter of intent to the EHF to organise Final 4 but it was still preferred Budapest. Now they candidated with Cluj-Napoca and EHF didn't say no. They are willing to repeat the letter, with Cluj-Napoca before 2020, or if not then Bucharest will surely want to host in 2020 with the new indoor of the club.


They still prefer the cheaters from Hungary ? I'm not surprised at all.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby bajkalb » Fri May 19, 2017 7:15 pm

swarthofole wrote:Just to be short, bajkalb, in Romania the local authorities are not allowed to pay the salaries, but they can pay the other expenses of a club.
I didn't hear about this initiative, but if that's true, I assume they want to raise a bit the percentage.


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Re: CSM Bucharest, letters of intent to the EHF to organise the Final 4

Postby Jig » Fri May 19, 2017 11:41 pm

silvius wrote:
vlad_impaler wrote:Nicolae Luca declared for ProSport LIVE that CSM Bucharest already sent a letter of intent to the EHF to organise Final 4 but it was still preferred Budapest. Now they candidated with Cluj-Napoca and EHF didn't say no. They are willing to repeat the letter, with Cluj-Napoca before 2020, or if not then Bucharest will surely want to host in 2020 with the new indoor of the club.


They still prefer the cheaters from Hungary ? I'm not surprised at all.



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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby swarthofole » Sat May 20, 2017 8:31 pm

Imho CSM Bucharest has really big problems in defense (and not only because Bradeanu is retiring now). They need at least one (scaring) good defender asap. And no, Frafjord is not the solution of all these problems.
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun May 21, 2017 8:25 am

swarthofole wrote:Imho CSM Bucharest has really big problems in defense (and not only because Bradeanu is retiring now). They need at least one (scaring) good defender asap. And no, Frafjord is not the solution of all these problems.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun May 21, 2017 8:35 am

I don't know the contract look like but I presume that you can break it when you suddenly dream something, after all the staff make the strategy of aquisitions reling on that I mean what you can do today you can't do the day after tomorrow.Big thank you to Mica though.Great player ,an example of sport life.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun May 21, 2017 8:56 am

P.S. I think Mica was a bit too affected about herself image but I can asured that we all (handball fans) have high appreciations of hers 5 or 15 min of effective court-play when she scored when the team is downscoring,when she blocked a fierce atack or when she play succesfully a partiture none of her own. Not talking about her experience and the fact she is an example for the youngsters.For us is not a less-shining Mica....

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby zero » Mon May 22, 2017 7:53 am

Doru Delavale wrote:P.S. I think Mica was a bit too affected about herself image but I can asured that we all (handball fans) have high appreciations of hers 5 or 15 min of effective court-play when she scored when the team is downscoring,when she blocked a fierce atack or when she play succesfully a partiture none of her own. Not talking about her experience and the fact she is an example for the youngsters.For us is not a less-shining Mica....


Totally agree..I just posted that in the other topic:
Oh, that's a shame. I think she is very useful and many times during last season I thought that her moves were the ones that were crucial and her role was great.
Her years are not seen at all, and in some smaller club she would definitely play the main role.
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed May 31, 2017 10:33 pm

Will Hagmann succesfully replace Carmen Martin ? I think the answer is yes on atack and no in defence....The problem could be more difficult in central defence where Tortenssen and Mica disapeared we need a class defender at least at one phase :pure defence...of course both were more then simply defenders...The problems is Anastasia Lobach is too rudimentary in central defence and cause too many unwished faults(and visit the bench too often) so if she didn't change her defending style she couldn't become a durable high standard solution...Also Marit is not an answer to that.So CSM if want F4 must get a reliable central defender.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby bajkalb » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:20 am

Doru Delavale wrote:Will Hagmann succesfully replace Carmen Martin ? I think the answer is yes on atack and no in defence....The problem could be more difficult in central defence where Tortenssen and Mica disapeared we need a class defender at least at one phase :pure defence...of course both were more then simply defenders...The problems is Anastasia Lobach is too rudimentary in central defence and cause too many unwished faults(and visit the bench too often) so if she didn't change her defending style she couldn't become a durable high standard solution...Also Marit is not an answer to that.So CSM if want F4 must get a reliable central defender.


Final4 is no question for CSM.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby swarthofole » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:36 pm

I think he/ she meant winning it. :D
that could be a problem.
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:31 pm

bajkalb wrote:
Doru Delavale wrote:Will Hagmann succesfully replace Carmen Martin ? I think the answer is yes on atack and no in defence....The problem could be more difficult in central defence where Tortenssen and Mica disapeared we need a class defender at least at one phase :pure defence...of course both were more then simply defenders...The problems is Anastasia Lobach is too rudimentary in central defence and cause too many unwished faults(and visit the bench too often) so if she didn't change her defending style she couldn't become a durable high standard solution...Also Marit is not an answer to that.So CSM if want F4 must get a reliable central defender.


Final4 is no question for CSM.

Last (only)two seasons we reached F4 but rather on knees....and payed too big and too much emotions .Is not the style of big champ....and now when we have both Neagu and Bella in the team will be pity to neglect this important aspect.Similar to man the team is the style. We want not just qualification but doing it with style.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:42 pm

I do not understand why take so long to replace in defence Linea Torstensson ? It's not an easy task of course... in my opinion Julia Eriksson from Savehof should be a good,long term and not so expensive solution. She is young(b.1994).strong in defence (1,82;LB) and good in atack ,she scored 67 goals in CL in 2015-16 in not so much matches ,she has some 2-3 years experience of CL and she is on the line with northern group team
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:29 am

You talk only to talk. Don't we have Bazaliu? And if you want defender, you bring a defender.

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:02 am

vlad_impaler wrote:You talk only to talk. Don't we have Bazaliu? And if you want defender, you bring a defender.

She is a good defender but she also can scored many goals what's wrong with that ? Tortensson was not only a pure defender...

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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby CSMthenewpower » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:26 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:You talk only to talk. Don't we have Bazaliu? And if you want defender, you bring a defender.


Bazaliu? Be serious..Since when Bazaliu is a defender ?
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Re: About the CSM Bucharest project

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:35 pm

CSMthenewpower wrote:

Bazaliu? Be serious..Since when Bazaliu is a defender ?


She can be a great defender, considering her power (due to muscles and weight) and height. But if you want a classic defender, then don't bring a player like Eriksson that would also like to play in attack. Why? To threaten the development of Bianca?


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