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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Mariusmm » Wed May 24, 2017 10:23 pm

The real games will be tomorrow ( Thursday ), both Dinamo and Minaur will face NL teams ( Slobozia and Galati). For me both matches are 50/50.
Hopefully we will be able to play even better than today and edge the game in our favour. There will be a livescore on our Facebook page CS Minaur Baia Mare, as today.


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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu May 25, 2017 3:35 pm

Dinamo don't succed to promote in NL. Dinamo-Slobozia 17-19. I watched the last 5 min on You Tube from 14-17... Dinamo put to much pressure on his players,their hands were rather shaked hands, they lost passes and atacks.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby HB9 » Thu May 25, 2017 3:39 pm

Doru Delavale wrote:Dinamo don't succed to promote in NL.

Are you saying this is final? Or are there any further games?

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu May 25, 2017 3:45 pm

HB9 wrote:
Doru Delavale wrote:Dinamo don't succed to promote in NL.

Are you saying this is final? Or are there any further games?

It still one match but normally nothing can happened Because is cleared that Slobozia will beat Reschitza

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Postby Doru Delavale » Thu May 25, 2017 3:54 pm

Dinamo made some transfers from outside (Danemark) and I am curious what it will happen because the presumption was that Dinamo will promote NL.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby HB9 » Thu May 25, 2017 4:05 pm

Doru Delavale wrote:Dinamo made some transfers from outside (Danemark) and I am curious what it will happen because the presumption was that Dinamo will promote NL.


http://sport.tv2.dk/haandbold/2017-04-0 ... t-sige-nej

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- Then I do not go down there. Then I find another club, because I have also had offers from other clubs that could also offer good deals.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby swarthofole » Thu May 25, 2017 4:44 pm

so the intergalactic project called Dinamo sank like the Titanic. I guess money is not everything.
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu May 25, 2017 6:07 pm

It is possible though if one team retired (because lack of money)from NL Dinamo should be invited to replace it....In other group Baia Mare was defeated 26-20 by Danubius Galati.

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Postby Doru Delavale » Thu May 25, 2017 6:11 pm

So Slobozia and Galati keep their places in NL and the newcomers are Rapid Bucuresti and Slatina.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Doru Delavale » Sat May 27, 2017 5:45 pm

It seems the tension grow in Dinamo's club btwn club and Ctin Caliman. The press talk about 2 scenario : the team will continue in second liga or the team get a wild card to NL to replace U Cluj which have great financial problems to pay team-players...

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Mariusmm » Sun May 28, 2017 8:02 am

Or, in other words, Dinamo will pay some club to withdraw from the NL. Probably Cluj.
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun May 28, 2017 12:12 pm

Interesting that some of Dinamo's players (Alla Sheyko,T.Bokaric,Laura Popa ) came from U Cluj and there are some month of unpayed salaries.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby depor8 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:09 pm

So the last teams in the standings of the 1st league are stronger than expected.
At least comparing with the 2nd league pretenders.
Out of curiosity I searched and found Dinamo beat Baia Mare 31-28 in the match for 3rd place.
Does this mean a very small window of opportunity still left ?
Btw anyone can help with a link for standings in the division where Slatina won 1st place in season and so promoted directly.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby swarthofole » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:44 pm

hello, depor, here is the final ranking for second division (B group):

http://www.frh.ro/clasament.php?id=230

I really don't think the result of that match is important. they still have to pray for some team to retire (or for a take over), but it seems there is no team in this situation. Cluj has a low budget, but they want to continue.
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby depor8 » Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:47 pm

Thanks swarthofole.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Mariusmm » Sat Jun 03, 2017 7:49 pm

http://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/excl ... 12229.html. I believe this has been posted on another topic too, but it fits pretty well into the previous posts. True, Cluj said they will continue in the 1st league, and according to the article above, there are bigger chances Dinamo will vanish rather than promote. Long story short, there are some issues inside Romanian Handball Federation ( FRH ) regarding contracts Dinamo players had to sign, involving some "ghost" club of Constantin Caliman ( ex CSM, current Dinamo boss ). Also, their coach is a federal coach working for FRH, which is not really fair nor legal.

I was in Sfantu-Gheorghe during the promotion/relegation tournament, there aren't too many things to be said about Dinamo-Minaur match, both teams were with poor morale, balanced battle, Dinamo edged it in the final minutes. However, Dinamo's objective was promotion, our objective was to reach the tournament.
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby vlad_impaler » Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:43 pm

Shame on Alex Dedu FRH president and the clubs! We needed Dinamo in the first league.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby swarthofole » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:31 am

vlad_impaler wrote:Shame on Alex Dedu FRH president and the clubs! We needed Dinamo in the first league.

why? to compete with CSM? and what if they burn the steps like that and in 2 years they vanish due to financial problems (Romanian style)? it will be that good?
I think if they want a team, they should first win the matches in 2nd division and promote. AFTER promotion they should transfer some decent players to stay in the 1st league and so on. they came to us with a ChL winning project in 2 years :D , who can take that for serious?? ](*,)
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Silviu » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:11 am

^ And now they are close to dissolution because their "huge project" has miserably failed. Ridiculous club with a ridiculous management and a ridiculous coach.
And why is Dedu guilty? Because he didn't do some illegal maneuvers behind the scene to promote a unworthy team to the detriment of another?

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:41 pm

Silviu wrote:And why is Dedu guilty? Because he didn't do some illegal maneuvers behind the scene to promote a unworthy team to the detriment of another?


You need to see the interest of the Romanian handball. Dedu clearly didn't do it. Not instead of U Cluj, but to change format, to propose at least. Do something, Dedu, if it's still possible!

Moreover, Cluj-Napoca act like k**f slaves. You will see when they will lose every game 13-16 to 43-46.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:43 pm

In any civilised world, a team is tested to see if it is compatible to the level of the championship. If didn't read the football news, look at this! http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-b/soimii- ... 92148.html

Future U Cluj! So yeah, FRH needed a study, and if Universitatea would have been too weak, bye bye first league.

There need to be regulations against amateurism.

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:03 am

In Romanian National League there are 45 outside players an average of aprox 3 players on each team . Some voices said that is too much but I think it is not ,this is about competition and values . On last editions of F4 were only international teams.... 34(fom 45) of these players are NT players. CSM has 11 players, Valcea 10 players , and 4 teams have no outside (foreign players) : Zalau,Brasov,Slatina,Cluj and Slobozia have 1 single player.....and this is table countries from where they are (I made a mutual change from that was a mistake on source):
    Macedonia 6
    Serbia 5
    Ucraina 4
    Brazilia 4
    Spania 3
    Muntenegru 3
    Belarus 3
    Suedia 3
    Franța 3
    Croația 2
    Norvegia 2
    Austria 1
    Portugalia 1
    Slovenia 1
    Bosnia 1
    Slovacia 1
    Tunisia 1
    Danemarca 1
the source is http://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/45-de-jucatoare-straine-aproape-jumatate-dintre-handbaliste-21-vor-evolua-doar-la-doua-dintre-echipe-csm-bucuresti-respectiv-hcm-rm-valcea-515846.html

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Synchrony » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:13 am

Andrea Beleska, Dajana Jovanovska and Elena Livrinikj that's 3 Macedonian players. Who are the other 3?
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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:17 am

Synchrony wrote:Andrea Beleska, Bojana Jovanovska and Elena Livrinikj that's 3 Macedonian players. Who are the other 3?

On that source table Macedonia appeared twice with 6 and also 3 players I presumed Montenegro have not 6 players so I put on position with 3 players Montenegro... but if you are patient I will verify...

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Re: Liga Națională (Romanian League) 2016/2017

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:27 am

Doru Delavale wrote:
Synchrony wrote:Andrea Beleska, Bojana Jovanovska and Elena Livrinikj that's 3 Macedonian players. Who are the other 3?

On that source table Macedonia appeared twice with 6 and also 3 players I presumed Montenegro have not 6 players so I put on position with 3 players Montenegro... but if you are patient I will verify...

The right position is Muntenegru 6 players Macedonia 3 players this was the right ajustment of GSP's table.... sorry !


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