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Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Corbantis » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:05 am

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) -1
Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) -5
HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) -6
U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) -2
IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) -8
FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS) +4
Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) -3
Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) -1
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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby treideca44 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:35 pm

Corbantis wrote:HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) +6



+ 6 ? :shock: :doubt:

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Corbantis » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:59 pm

treideca44 wrote:
Corbantis wrote:HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) +6



+ 6 ? :shock: :doubt:


corrected, multumesc!

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby jensm » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:03 pm

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU)
Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN)
HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN)
U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO)
IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR)
FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS)
Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE)
Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER)

The match between Hypo and Valcea will be interesting, Valcea haven't impressed me yet.

Also Krim against Cluj can be pretty even, but hoping and think Krim will take it.

And btw Jelena Zikovic will be one of the best RB soon, she have better technique that Bulatovic had at her age- -> with the right training and playingtime, ofc.

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Des57 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:06 pm

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) -5

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) -7

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) -5

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) -2

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) -7

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS)+6

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) +2

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) -2

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby nightmaar » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:44 pm

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) -3

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) -5

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) +2

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) 0

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) -6

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS)+3

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) -2

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) +1

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby OltchimRmValcea » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:56 pm

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) -2

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) -7

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) -2

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) -1

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) -4

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS) +5

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) +3

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) +2
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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby treideca44 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:36 pm

Corbantis wrote:
corrected, multumesc!


cu placere :) (yu're welcome)

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Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) -3

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) -8

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) -5

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) -2

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) -3

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS) +7

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) +1

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) +1

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Corbantis » Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:57 pm

treideca44 wrote:
Corbantis wrote:
corrected, multumesc!


cu placere :) (yu're welcome)

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Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) -3

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) -8

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) -5

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) -2

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) -3

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS) +7

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) +1

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) +1


Thanks, I know, I have a Romanian colleague. :) I pick up some words. :)

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Bo$ko » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:11 pm

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) -2 / Hypo will play for win to kick off Randers, but 6th round will give us the 2nd team.

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) -6 / Randers improved a bit, easy win.

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) -1 / ETO will play more relaxed, and for Podravka this is the first chance to send Krim to CWC... Anyway ETO a slim favourite because of squad.

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) -3 / Krim showed nothing till now, waste of money...

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) -5 / No motivation here... More chances for bench players.

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS) +4 / FTC preparing to defend the 1st place.

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Budućnost (MNE) -1 / Woltering off, it'll be very hard, but Zvezda is confused when they meet some good defence...

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) +2 / Last chance for THC, but Viborg will take it.
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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Marco Aurelio » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:42 pm

Bo$ko wrote:IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) -5 / No motivation here... More chances for bench players.



Well, Savehof needs some points for the CWC spot + Larvik can not lose any if they want to finish group 1st.

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Grzymisław » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:51 pm

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) -6

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) -5

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) -6

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) -1

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) -9

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS) +10

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) draw

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) +3

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Bo$ko » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:40 pm

Marco Aurelio wrote:Well, Savehof needs some points for the CWC spot + Larvik can not lose any if they want to finish group 1st.

Oh, I wrote wrong... I mean no motivation for some big goal difference, Larvik needs just to win...
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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby silvius » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:49 pm

jensm wrote:The match between Hypo and Valcea will be interesting, Valcea haven't impressed me yet.
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They have 4/4. Maybe not that much show. Still you are not impressed...

On:

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) 45 - 55 (%)

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) 45 - 55 (%)

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) 75 - 25 (%)

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) 55 - 45 (%)

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) 40 - 60 (%)

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS) 100 - 0 (%)

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) 55 - 45 (%)

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) 65 - 35 (%)

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby barry.romania » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:28 pm

he is right, Vâlcea impressed only in the 19 goals difference win from Hamburg, against the poorest team in group Buxtehuder. but you don`t need to impress now. Győr is also a slower starter but winning every match. moreover, the Euro is coming.

the most interesting game of this round is Universitatea Cluj against Krim Ljubljana. I hope you realise, friends, that if Mercator doesn`t win in Romania or if Podravka gets a least one point against the pride of Hungary, Krim is out. Penezić was injured all this time but it would be still be a big surprise after all the transfers. U Jolidon fights for honour. ETO could easily allow Koprivnica getting the needed point, hence kicking one of the contenders.

then interesting games are also Hypo-Oltchim and Zvezda-Buducnost, that will decide the groups` winners. IF Thüringer wins at Viborg, then it is gonna be messy in that group and it could end badly even for the team from Podgorica. BUT if VHK will have the goalkeepers in good form, probably this team will win. so Viborg-Thüringer is also interesting and similar to U Jolidon-Krim.

Randers, FTC and especially Larvik should collect 2 points. they should have even higher motivation than Oltchim and ETO. but if these last two are professional will win also. though Vâlcea affords even a 5 goals loss and Győr needs 1 point. I wouldn`t be surprised to see a draw between ETO and Podravka in Koprivnica, knowing the Hungarian-Croatian friendship. but this wouldn`t be fair for Mercator and professional from the visitor side. though again, sometimes it is better to kill your rival instead of getting killed in the future! this way Krim would lose the war and not just a battle.
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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby jensm » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:25 pm

silvius wrote:
jensm wrote:The match between Hypo and Valcea will be interesting, Valcea haven't impressed me yet.
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They have 4/4. Maybe not that much show. Still you are not impressed...

On:

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) 45 - 55 (%)

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) 45 - 55 (%)

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) 75 - 25 (%)

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) 55 - 45 (%)

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) 40 - 60 (%)

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS) 100 - 0 (%)

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) 55 - 45 (%)

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) 65 - 35 (%)


Compared with the squad they have, and this group is perhaps the easiest too.

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby barry.romania » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:39 pm

jensm wrote:Compared with the squad they have, and this group is perhaps the easiest too.


the easiest? :D we are first seed. Larvik your team is meeting Dinamo, FTC and Savehof. Volgograd without the best players is poorer than Randers. Hypo this year is good level. FTC isn`t top side, it is not our fault Larvik didnt`t defeat it. Hypo and Randers count more than FTC and this Dinamo, Savehof isn`t in discussion - 0 points like Buxtehuder. ETO also easy group. Krim losing both by 10 or something. maybe, only maybe group D would be harder for a first seed, in rest first 3 groups looked equal to me. Krim and Dinamo looked good only on paper.
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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby silvius » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:40 pm

jensm wrote:
Compared with the squad they have, and this group is perhaps the easiest too.


I think you simply underestimate the other teams. Hypo is not that bad, the same as Randers. Buxtehuder is very weak and the results showed this already.
On the other hand most of the actual players play for the first year together, they will need more time to act as a real team.
Still, maybe they didn't impress that much, but also didn't disappoint, they won until now without any doubts.
At this level, and even later to the MR, we will see even less spectacular games, because only points and qualification matter against stronger and stronger rivals.
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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Des57 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:43 pm

silvius wrote:HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) 75 - 25 (%)



That was before Podravka losing probably their best player.I believe you would change it now :?: Even going in the MR sounds problematic for the Croatians .I could easily see Krim with a plus 3 over Podravka.

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby treideca44 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:45 pm

jensm wrote:
Compared with the squad they have, and this group is perhaps the easiest too.


Hmmm... but Hypo and Randers are much better than Savehof and Dinamo (in my opinion)
We can compare also FTC with them, indeed, but Ferencvaros is already an failure exam for Larvik :)

Is just the beginning of competition. In main round we can see the real level for each team.

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby silvius » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:45 pm

Des57 wrote:That was before Podravka losing probably their best player.I believe you would change it now :?: Even going in the MR sounds problematic for the Croatians .I could easily see Krim with a plus 3 over Podravka.


No mistake there, I don't have what to change. :lol:
Maybe for others look crazy, but I put what I feel that can happen.

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby barry.romania » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:46 pm

this is what I`m saying: Hypo & Randers > FTC & this Dinamo. in this moment, probably FTC looks stronger than Hypo but we will see exactly in the main groups.

and Buxtehuder might not be worse than Savehof, I`m not convinced. I liked only Ida Oden from Savehof, the rest Roberts, Sand, etc. are without experience. the German side has some good backs and a good goalkeeper and I remember also an interesting wing. it could be close! none of this type of teams is reliable.
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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Bo$ko » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:50 pm

barry.romania wrote:, then it is gonna be messy in that group and it could end badly even for the team from Podgorica


Budućnost is in the best position since they only need to beat Viborg in Podgorica.
They are better than THC and will be probably than Zvezda (can't believe to lose more than 8 goals), so it'll be fight between THC and Zvezda, maybe Viborg will kick off THC already next week.
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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby Des57 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:54 pm

jensm wrote:
silvius wrote:
jensm wrote:The match between Hypo and Valcea will be interesting, Valcea haven't impressed me yet.
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They have 4/4. Maybe not that much show. Still you are not impressed...

On:

Hypo NÖ (AUT) vs Oltchim Rm. Valcea (ROU) 45 - 55 (%)

Buxtehuder SV (GER) vs Randers HK (DEN) 45 - 55 (%)

HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO) vs Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN) 75 - 25 (%)

U Jolidon Cluj (ROU) vs RK Krim Mercator (SLO) 55 - 45 (%)

IK Sävehof (SWE) vs Larvik (NOR) 40 - 60 (%)

FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN) vs Dinamo Volgograd (RUS) 100 - 0 (%)

Zvezda Zvenigorod (RUS) vs Buducnost (MNE) 55 - 45 (%)

Viborg HK (DEN) vs Thüringer HC (GER) 65 - 35 (%)


Compared with the squad they have, and this group is perhaps the easiest too.


Hypo is better this year and don't forget Randers is Danish Champ.Last year a weaker Austrian team won against Gyor.
Group C is definitely the easiest group.I strongly believe that Hypo would have fought for Main Round with any team from group D and also for the second place in the B group.

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Re: Champions League 2012/13 Group Stage R5

Postby barry.romania » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:54 pm

Bo$ko wrote:Budućnost is in the best position since they only need to beat Viborg in Podgorica.


you are right. the goal difference. I was wrong. I don`t imagine you not beating VHK last round. normally only Zvezda can fail - losing the qualification to the MR. but it`s also about the first place in group, no?

Des57 wrote:
Hypo is better this year and don't forget Randers is Danish Champ.Last year a weaker Austrian team won against Gyor.


Hypo is very solid this year and was improving since last edition. but Randers lost many players, though also signed some. in this formula I don`t see Randers winning the title in Denmark. I would be surprised.
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