Gheorghe Tadici wrote:I don`t see the foreigners talking that much about politics like some of you (not my friend Dy of course <3). Some mentioning in Denmark, France, etc but that`s all.
I want to remind you that at least half of the Ligue 1 teams in the French football are supported by the city halls. And probably 100% of the lower leagues sides. Or close to.
In the Hungarian football, in all the championships from 1st to 3rd, you get 200.000 euros if you only have 100% local players therefore no foreigner.
I also watched the Spanish Tour of Cycling and so many teams were from Spain, and the majority were city hall financed.
80-90% of the EU aren`t Germany or England. If I`m not wrong, Copenhagen also funded the men`s handball team for a while. Or Viborg survived with public money for some seasons.
Don't get your comment about foreign players. What, do you want Niombla to talk about the mayor of Bucharest or Neagu about that of Podgorica? That's absurd.On the other hand, we're supporters and citizens and I think it's normal to be concerned about our own money and where does it go. I think it would be irresponsible otherwise.
The players (foreign or not) should be more careful when choosing their teams though. That is, if they do want to get payed real money.
Now, about your examples. Can you give some numbers please? Namely:
1. Team by team, or on average, what is the proportion represented by public funds in Ligue 1? 80%? 90%? Or close to 10%. Can you cite the sources for the data, based on which you made this statement?
2. Can you cite the source for the information related to the Hungarian soccer league? Also, is 200k EUR 100% of the budget?
3. How do you know those teams are financed by city halls?
Comment: most of the teams you mentioned (football, cycling) have their shirts branded with the names of several other sponsors. You gave the example of VHK, but you should know that this team was one of the most successful in attracting PRIVATE sponsors (Varzaru's testimony). They even rolled in a model in which each player had its own separate sponsors paying her wage and displaying that sponsor's brand. Pretty cool, no?
Let me rephrase: do you think it is normal that a team lives EXCLUSIVELY
from public money and makes no effort to attract other sponsors?
How many of the teams from the examples you cited are called: "'Club Sportiv Municipal". Do you think it is normal to have a national league of Muncipal Clubs?
I, don't. The knowledge I have about sports management is that there normally are 4 main revenue
streams: tickets, television rights, advertisement, merchandise. Add to this the sponsors (yes, public money can be a part of it).
How many Romanian teams (in any sport) generate revenue? Or, just for fun, how much revenue is a Champions League winner (CSM Bucuresti) going to generate from these streams, based on last year's success? How many people were at the Polivalenta for the Supercup? How many people will there be for the CL matches, to see the trophy holder from last year?
There are solutions to our problem:
1. Discuss and pass a decent law of sponsorship. This should encourage big companies (and we have a shitload of them in Romania) to put money into sports.
2. Train sports managers, and stop promoting the Luca's of the world! We need people who know how to work with sports organisations, who understand their needs and know how to run them as a special kind of business.
3. Based on 1 and 2, gradually take distance from public money. The way I see public involvement is thus: it should allow the use of infrastructure by professional sport clubs at a decent price AND they should fully
support youth sections of the clubs AND help the sports movement in general by promoting amateur competitions (not clubs!) at lower divisions (this is what French are doing, for example!).
The current model IS NOT working! What other proof do you need: Valcea, Brasov, Baia Mare (men and women), Ploiesti, Buzau, Bacau (men and women), Constanta (men and women) and I can carry on with the examples. If for the past 25 years it didn't work, shouldn't we try a different model?