EHF-Cup 2017/2018

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Veselin » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:18 pm

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I would say Astrakhanockha have the best squad after Rostov; Postnova, Sabirova, Chigirnova, Ikhneva, Kochetova, Malashenko, Levsha, Samokhina, Kozhokar, Petrova. And they also som against Rostov 26-24 at home if im wrong. But, yes Lada is one of the favs now. Along with Vipers/Brest I guess.


After Rostov, yeah, I added that. Well, it's questionable. I also thought Astrakhan could be better as squad at first sight, but let's face it: Lada are 10-0-0! Dmitrieva is more mature than Sabirova who looks a bit lost in space this season. About Kozhokar, it's not like she was such a fantastic wing for Russian NT level (past level). Regarding Postnova and Kochetova, the first got older and Kochetova is full of injuries and overweight (poor girl, she is awesome talent).

Dmitrieva, Vedekhina, Snopova, Novoselova, Nosikova, Mikhaylichenko, Tarasova etc is the fresh blood. And UTKINA is a real goalie.

One thing is visible though, Astrakhan's bench is better if no injuries. I guess the bench of Lada is young. But experience isn't winning everytime.


I told you before and will repeat it now: Astrakhanochka have a crap coach. That's why they are underperforming. It's not enough to be the husband of Postnova to be a proper coach for a top team.

On the other hand Kuban' are developing well. Tref got Tarasikov as an assistant coach, so his hysterics are less in number. And consequently the team play better. Also there are fewer players there, so possibly less tension. I wouldn't be surprised to find them in the final.

Lada have an excellent starting line up, but their bench is short. Of course, Dmitrieva is one of the best of the world. But they don't have a proper pivot, and Utkina is far from either Sedoykina or Kalinina. Btw from your list only Mikhaylichenko is fresh, the others have been in the Superliga for years.

Utkina is good goalkeeper,but there is no chance that she is better than Sedoykina.Lada has fantastic back line:Vedekhina,Dmitrieva and Snopova and they really have chance to win title in EHF Cup.But they will lose away matches against Rostov-Don and Astrakhanochka in National Championship.



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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Gojira » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:46 pm

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After Rostov, yeah, I added that. Well, it's questionable. I also thought Astrakhan could be better as squad at first sight, but let's face it: Lada are 10-0-0! Dmitrieva is more mature than Sabirova who looks a bit lost in space this season. About Kozhokar, it's not like she was such a fantastic wing for Russian NT level (past level). Regarding Postnova and Kochetova, the first got older and Kochetova is full of injuries and overweight (poor girl, she is awesome talent).

Dmitrieva, Vedekhina, Snopova, Novoselova, Nosikova, Mikhaylichenko, Tarasova etc is the fresh blood. And UTKINA is a real goalie.

One thing is visible though, Astrakhan's bench is better if no injuries. I guess the bench of Lada is young. But experience isn't winning everytime.


I told you before and will repeat it now: Astrakhanochka have a crap coach. That's why they are underperforming. It's not enough to be the husband of Postnova to be a proper coach for a top team.

On the other hand Kuban' are developing well. Tref got Tarasikov as an assistant coach, so his hysterics are less in number. And consequently the team play better. Also there are fewer players there, so possibly less tension. I wouldn't be surprised to find them in the final.

Lada have an excellent starting line up, but their bench is short. Of course, Dmitrieva is one of the best of the world. But they don't have a proper pivot, and Utkina is far from either Sedoykina or Kalinina. Btw from your list only Mikhaylichenko is fresh, the others have been in the Superliga for years.

Utkina is good goalkeeper,but there is no chance that she is better than Sedoykina.Lada has fantastic back line:Vedekhina,Dmitrieva and Snopova and they really have chance to win title in EHF Cup.But they will lose away matches against Rostov-Don and Astrakhanochka in National Championship.

It depends. If Zaikin stays as Astrakhanochka's coach, then Lada will win the game in Astrakhan.

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Gojira » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:15 pm

Group B looks interesting.

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Joana » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:48 pm

Group D doesn't.
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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:18 pm

Gojira and Ioana, you made your allegation only by "names".....all the groups are interesting. Lucky Zalau ....not to go thousands miles in Russia :D

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby will4104 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:27 pm

Joana wrote:Group D doesn't.

Yeah. Banik Most is clear favourite there.

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby mikh » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:56 pm

I agree that group B looks as the "killer" one, but A and D are not far behind either. I'd say group C seems like the least exciting... but that's just how I see it.

Don't know if it was meant as a joke or not, but Banik Most will be a tough cookie in group D; anyway, everything will be really balanced there. As for Zalau, I'd be happy if they would win their home matches to begin with.

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:56 pm

k**f idiots of EHF! Now you should stay with attractive Kastamonu and Vistal. Look at groups A and B!

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:00 pm

mikh wrote:I agree that group B looks as the "killer" one, but A and D are not far behind either. I'd say group C seems like the least exciting... but that's just how I see it.

Don't know if it was meant as a joke or not, but Banik Most will be a tough cookie in group D; anyway, everything will be really balanced there. As for Zalau, I'd be happy if they would win their home matches to begin with.


Hoors and Most aren't bad, but you can't compare them with the all tough opponents of first two groups.

And Group A isn't inferior to Group B at all. Kuban kicked Astrakhan and are known in Russia as tough on home field, whilst Brest were finalists of the last season. They are surely better than Issy Paris without bench. Randers should not be understimated. But probably yes, group B is slightly better on paper.

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby HB9 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:20 pm

http://handballtv.com/

Vipers - Issy Paris
6. januar kl. 16:50

Byåsen - Viborg
13. januar kl. 16:50

Vipers - Handball Club Lada
27. januar kl. 16:50

Byåsen - Kastamonu Belediyesi GSK
27. januar kl. 16:50

Byåsen - Vistal Gdynia
3. februar kl. 16:50

Vipers - København Håndbold
10. februar kl. 16:50
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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby HB9 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:36 pm

Either the Larvik games aren't entered yet or they can't be bothered to stream their matches. :-k
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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby HB9 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:01 pm

HB9 wrote:Either the Larvik games aren't entered yet or they can't be bothered to stream their matches. :-k

Never mind, they also have been added now:

Larvik - H.C. Zalau
7. januar kl. 16:45

Larvik - H 65 Höörs HK
27. januar kl. 16:45

Larvik - DHK Banik Most
10. februar kl. 17:15


Fingers crossed that they will work. Unfortunately I can no longer trust the scheduling on handballtv.com anymore. :roll:
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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby HB9 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:34 pm

Any other streams? Please do share them.
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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Gojira » Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:16 pm

HB9 wrote:Any other streams? Please do share them.

There may be a link here later on:

http://livetv.sx/eventinfo/609096_vistal_gdynia_byasen/

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby etomork » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:34 pm

ehftv.com is streaming the Vipers- Issy paris game.

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby HB9 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:21 pm

Höörs HK - Banik Most: https://livestream.com/h65hoor/events/8002045

Saturday at 14:45
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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Lucy » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:18 pm

Group B:

Lada - København 27-24
Vipers - Paris 22-23 (poor match by the norwegian, they had 28-30 shots who didnt get in)

Group C:

Viborg - Kastamano 26-28 (!!) - what a surprice by the turkish girl. I am so happy
Gdynia- Byåsen 22-24

Group D:

Hoor - Most 28-27 (the czech girls lead by 6 goals, but did make the hole match)

Sorry for my poor english

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:15 am

It's OK Lucy.....thanks. :)

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:37 pm

Brest - Craiova 17,45 RO Hour LIVE on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHFBiRHRBSA (I hope will be ok ...but we never know really, don't we ? )

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby HB9 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:44 pm

:-k That's one of these Youtube 'fake' streams which are set up by the hundreds every day with (supposed) streams to all sorts of sporting events. Of course they never work and are mainly intented to make you click on a link in the description - which also doesn't have a stream, but is probably (I won't try it out) full of ads and other stuff.
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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby HB9 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:48 pm

Their fan club wanted to stream it on Facebook it seems: https://www.facebook.com/supportersdubo ... 0189425740

But after a warning at the previous CL game by the EHF they aren't doing it any longer. I think the rules in the EHF-Cup are a lot less strict than in the CL, so it might have been possible after all. Many other teams were/are streaming their EHF-Cup games, of course.
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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:10 pm

HB9 wrote::-k That's one of these Youtube 'fake' streams which are set up by the hundreds every day with (supposed) streams to all sorts of sporting events. Of course they never work and are mainly intented to make you click on a link in the description - which also doesn't have a stream, but is probably (I won't try it out) full of ads and other stuff.

Hmm..... :oops:

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Re: EHF-Cup 2017/2018

Postby Doru Delavale » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:56 pm

Larvik-Zalau 28-23 Larvik lead even with 10 goals ....
Brest - Craiova 25-22
EOS Ticker datas very unsure (for instance romanian players all have 100% efficency ??! ) Craiova's match.


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