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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Gojira » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:08 am

swarthofole wrote:link for a replay, pls? and what about Duda? is she ok?
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EDIT: I found the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oymJb0tyjbg


It seems that Amorim will miss at least two months.



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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Jig » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:52 pm

ESZTERHÁZY SC–GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC 20–35 (13–14)
ESZTERHÁZY SC: GYŐRFFY – BUZSÁKI 4, Hanczvikkel 2, Petrovics 1, SÁRI 6 (1), Kobela 2, Sallai 1, Leiner, Juhász R., Bocsi, Pados 3, Brettner, Borbély 1, Sepsi.
GYŐR: Kiss É. – Knedlíková 4, Tomori, S. Oftedal 3, Brattset 3, A. Hansen 7, Puhalák 1, GRIMSBÖ, V. KRISTIANSEN 6, GROOT 6 (1), Pintea 1, Bódi 2, Afentaler, Fodor Cs. 2.

FTC-RAIL CARGO HUNGARIA–KISVÁRDA MASTER GOOD SE 35–27 (19–12)
FTC: Bíró B. – Lukács V. 3, KLUJBER 4 (1), Kovacsics 1, Mészáros R. 2, HÁFRA N. 8, Schatzl Nadine 4, SZEMEREY, Szikora, PENA 7 (5), Klivinyi 1, Zsiborás 2, Faluvégi D. 1, Márton G. 2
KISVÁRDA: Pásztor B. – Orbán Adrienn 1, A. Klikovac, Radojevics 6 (4), Hakunova 2, DE ARAUJO 8, Avgyekova 1, Kordowiecka, Rebicová 1, T. Milosevics 2, Guialo 3, Benko 2 (1), Dragut 1.

ÉRD–DVSC-SCHAEFFLER 29–25 (15–13)
ÉRD: Janurik – KRPEZS-SLEZÁK 7, LAVKO 6, Tóth G. 2, Szabó L. 3 (2), Kovacsevics 2, C. Lassource 2, Foggea, Kiss N. 1, JERÁBKOVÁ 6 (2), Simon A., Gávai.
DVSC: Oguntoye – Varsányi 1, Punyko 3, GRIGEL 5, Tóvizi 2, DESZPOTOVICS 8, Szabó P. 1, Triffa, Szabó D, Bulath 1, Kovács Anna 1 (1), Borgyos 1, Arany 1, Bordás, Zamfirescu 1.

ALBA FEHÉRVÁR KC–GVM EUROPE-VÁC 26–23 (14–14)
FEHÉRVÁR: Györkös – Májer 1, NASCIMENTO 11 (5), TEMES 4, Zsilinszkajtye 2, MENDY 4, Pelczéder 1, MISTINA, Gorsenyina 2, Sztankovics, Boldizsár 1, Szarka A.
VÁC: ARENHART 1 – Diószegi 1, Hámori 2, HELEMBAI F. 4, DE SOUZA 4 (2), Lakatos 4 (1), Radoszavljevics 3, Suba, Kácsor 1, Szabó K. 1, Jovetic 2, Szamoránsky P.

MTK BUDAPEST–EUBILITY GROUP-BÉKÉSCSABAI ENKSE 26–26 (15–13)
MTK: Győri – Slakta, KARNIK SZ. 6 (2), Tóth E. 3 (1), Dakos 3, Mihálffy, FEKETE B. 5, Lajtos, Kovács G., BÁNFAI 4, Termány 3, Stranigg 2.
BÉKÉSCSABA: HORVÁT D. – KOVÁCS ANETT 5, Vukajlovics 4, Giricz, WALFISCH 8 (1), Dombi K., Hős 3, Balog J, Marincsák 4 (2), Zöldi-Tóth 2, M. Agbaba, Ekker.
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Jig » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:53 am

EUBILITY GROUP-BÉKÉSCSABAI ENKSE–GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC 22–47 (14–20) =D>
BÉKÉSCSABA: Balog J. – Kovács Anett 5, VUKAJLOVICS 8, Giricz, Walfisch 3, Marincsák 2 (2), Hős, Horváth D., Binó, Zöldi-Tóth 1, Kukely, Dombi K., M. Agbaba 2, Ekker, Török Cs. 1, Szögi
GYŐR: Leynaud – Knedlíková 6, GROOT 6, S. OFTEDAL 7 (2), BRATTSET 8, A. Hansen 2, Fodor Cs. 2, Kiss É., GRIMSBÖ, Tomori 1, Pintea 3, Bódi 2, V. Kristiansen 3, Puhalák 2, Afentaler 3, Pál T. 2

ESZTERHÁZY SC–FTC-RAIL CARGO HUNGARIA 16–31 (6–17)
ESZTERHÁZY: GYŐRFFY – Buzsáki, Hanczvikkel, PETROVICS 5, Sári 2 (1), Kobela 3, Sallai, Leiner, Juhász R. 1, Bocsi 1, Pados, Brettner 1, Borbély M., SEPSI 3.
FTC: BÍRÓ B. – LUKÁCS V. 4, Klujber 4, Kovacsics 2, Mészáros R. 1, Háfra N. 3, Schatzl Nadine 3, Szemerey, Horváth D., Pena 6 (2), KLIVINYI 2, Zsiborás 1, Farkas K. 1, Faluvégi D. 4, Márton G.

SIÓFOK KC–ALBA FEHÉRVÁR KC 41–24 (19–12)
SIÓFOK: Silje Solberg – Böhme 1, M. González 1, Nze Minko 6, Drabik 4, Kobetic 5 (2), Aoustin 6, Dedu, Perianu 3, Hmirova 3, Jezic 6, Geiger 1, Elghaoui 2, Janjusevics 2, Sárosi 1, Barkóczi.
FEHÉRVÁR: Mistina – Májer 3, Do Nascimento 6 (3), Zsilinszkajtye, Mendy 3, Gorsenyina 8, Pelczéder 3, Györkös, Temes, Boldizsár B., Szarka A. 1, Sztankovics, Rózsás, Utasi.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Jig » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:56 pm

GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC–MTK BUDAPEST 36–29 (15–14)
GYŐR: Kiss É. – Knedlíková 4, Groot 4 (1), S. Oftedal 3, Pintea 3, A. Hansen 5, Puhalák 3, Leynaud, Grimsbö, Brattset 2, V. Kristiansen 3, TOMORI 3, Görbicz 2 (1), Bódi 3, Fodor Cs. 1.
MTK: Lajtos – Slakta 3, KARNIK SZ. 6 (1), TÓTH E. 6 (3), DAKOS 5, Termány 5, Fekete B. 2, Győri, Kovács G., Bánfai 2, Stranigg.

FTC-RAIL CARGO HUNGARIA–ÉRD 35–30 (16–14)
FTC: Bíró B. – LUKÁCS V. 6, Háfra N. 3, KOVACSICS 6, Mészáros R. 2, PENA 8 (4), Schatzl Nadine 3, Szemerey, Horváth D., KLIVINYI 4, Klujber 3, Zsiborás.
ÉRD: Janurik – Krpezs-Slezák 3 (1), SZABÓ L. 6, Kiss N. 2, J. Kovacsevics 3, TÓTH G. 7, C. LASSOURCE 4, Foggea, Lavko 1, Jerábková 2, Simon A., Schatzl Natalie 2

DUNAÚJVÁROSI KOHÁSZ KA–DVSC-SCHAEFFLER 24–25 (13–13)
DUNAÚJVÁROS: CSAPÓ KYRA – Grosch 2, Szekerczés 5 (4), Szalai B. 1, Sirián 2, FERENCZY 7 (2), Kazai 2, Cifra, Nick, Monori 1, MIHÁLY P. 4, Dombi L., Bouti.
DVSC: Oguntoye – Varsányi, Punyko 1, TÓVIZI 4, Bulath 2, GRIGEL 5, Vantara-Kelemen 1, TRIFFA, Kovács Anna 1, DESZPOTOVICS 7, Bordás 1, Szabó P. 2, Arany 1, Zamfirescu, Borgyos.

KISVÁRDA MASTER GOOD SE–ESZTERHÁZY SC 31–20 (15–11)
KISVÁRDA: Pásztor B. – Benko 2, Dragut 3, Morena 5, RADOJEVICS 6 (4), Hakunova 4, Avgyekova, KORDOWIECKA, A. Klikovac 1, V. Milanovic Litre 1, GUIALO 7, Orbán Adrienn, Milosevics 2, Rebicová, Balogh P., Soltész.
EGER: Győrffy – Bocsi 1, Juhász R., Hanczvikkel 1, Kobela 3, Buzsáki 1, Sári 4 (2), Leiner, PETROVICS 5 (2), Pados 5, Sepsi, Brettner.

GVM EUROPE-VÁC–MOYRA–BUDAÖRS HANDBALL 27–22 (15–6)
VÁC: ARENHART 1 – DIÓSZEGI 5, Szabó K. 3, Lakatos 3, Helembai F., Kácsor 4, Radoszavljevics 3, Suba, De Souza 3 (3), SZAMORÁNSKY P. 4, Iván 1, Szondi.
BUDAÖRS: SIPEKI – Ertl, Pásztor N. 3, Hajduch, Zsigmond V. 3, Pálos-Bognár, Mézes 4, Soós 1, Gerháth 2, Hornyák Á. 2, Szabadfi 1, Dávid-Azari 3, Horváth L. 3.
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Jig » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:43 pm

KISVÁRDA MASTER GOOD SE–GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC 28–30 (15–14)
KISVÁRDA: PÁSZTOR B. – Benko 1, A. Klikovac, MORENA 2, Hakunova 2, RADOJEVICS 5 (4), Milosevics 2, Kordowiecka, DRAGUT 3, V. MILANOVIC-LITRE 4, GUIALO 7, Avgyekova, Orbán Adrienn 1, Rebicová 1.
GYŐR: Grimsbö – Bódi 2, GROOT 7 (2), S. OFTEDAL 10 (2), BRATTSET 4, V. Kristiansen 2, Görbicz 1, Leynaud, Kiss É. Tomori 2, Pintea 1, A. Hansen, Knedlíková 1.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Jig » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:21 am

EU-FIRE MOSONMAGYARÓVÁRI KC–GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC 19–39 (13–21) =D>
MOSONMAGYARÓVÁR: Scholtz – Kovacsicz 1, Farkas V. 4 (1), Bízik B. 3, Sz. Vukcsevics 1, HUDÁK 5, Bízik R. 1, Gubíková, Horváth B., Katona F. 2 (2), Hajtai 1, Márczy 1, Tóth M., Domokos, Bardi, Szalai Zs.
GYŐR: Kiss É. – Knedlíková 4, GROOT 7 (1), S. OFTEDAL 4 (1), Brattset 3, A. Hansen 2, Puhalák 2, Grimsbö, Leynaud, Pintea 3, Bódi 3, TOMORI 5, Fodor Cs. 3, V. Kristiansen 3, Afentaler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54JCCkWEt4Q

ALBA FEHÉRVÁR KC–FTC-RAIL CARGO HUNGARIA 30–33 (18–18)
FEHÉRVÁR: Györkös – Rózsás, NASCIMENTO 7 (2), Zsilinszkajtye 3, MENDY 8 GORSENYINA 6, Pelczéder 3, Mistina, Boldizsár 3, Sztankovics, Szarka, Májer.
FTC: Bíró B. – Lukács V. 3, HÁFRA N. 4, Kovacsics 3 (1), Mészáros R. 2, PENA 6, SCHATZL NADINE 7 (2), Szemerey, Szikora, Horváth D. 1, Klivinyi 1, KLUJBER 6.
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby swarthofole » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:17 pm

how does Klujber fit into FTC? is she helping?
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Gojira » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:32 pm

swarthofole wrote:how does Klujber fit into FTC? is she helping?

She needs time, but she'll do well.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby swarthofole » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:09 pm

thanks!
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Jig » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:50 pm

Győr players learn Hungarian. :D

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Wbk » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:59 pm

Jig wrote:EU-FIRE MOSONMAGYARÓVÁRI KC–GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC 19–39 (13–21) =D>
MOSONMAGYARÓVÁR: Scholtz – Kovacsicz 1, Farkas V. 4 (1), Bízik B. 3, Sz. Vukcsevics 1, HUDÁK 5, Bízik R. 1, Gubíková, Horváth B., Katona F. 2 (2), Hajtai 1, Márczy 1, Tóth M., Domokos, Bardi, Szalai Zs.

Where is Sz. Sz.? :-k
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Gojira » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:04 pm

Wbk wrote:
Jig wrote:EU-FIRE MOSONMAGYARÓVÁRI KC–GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC 19–39 (13–21) =D>
MOSONMAGYARÓVÁR: Scholtz – Kovacsicz 1, Farkas V. 4 (1), Bízik B. 3, Sz. Vukcsevics 1, HUDÁK 5, Bízik R. 1, Gubíková, Horváth B., Katona F. 2 (2), Hajtai 1, Márczy 1, Tóth M., Domokos, Bardi, Szalai Zs.

Where is Sz. Sz.? :-k

She was - with others - unavailable because of "various reasons". Probably some kind of injury

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Jig » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:23 pm

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby swarthofole » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:04 pm

Derp wrote:Not even Győr should ever humiliate her new signing with honestly declaring that they rely on her only for 6 months and they never even planned to build her into the team and they expect better signing in the meantime.


now this is just funny and that's because Gyor constantly humiliates players. they humiliate foreign players, they humiliate Hungarian players, they humiliate Hungarian youngsters, they humiliate Hungarian nation of handball at all costs. of course they are the mighty Champions and some of you prefer to see the bright side (which is very convenient and of course a natural thing when all you can think about is trophies). I am not against their success, they are maybe the most successful club in the world and I am really an admirer of these great achievements, but:

- Broch quits handball because of them (just to start with the end) and now Groot plans to get out of this madness
- many injured players because of overusing (and these relates very well with my 4th argument here): Mork etc
- El-Ghaoui, Mireya Gonzales and now Pintea (if that will be the case) signed and discarded; hilarious thing is that they paid a 50k fee for that, so they must be really crazy (and rich) bastards
- all these excuses they didn't find a Hungarian player to join them when in need are just a piece of crap; look at all those youngsters who just warm the bench and look at their all time star Gorbicz forced to play as a wing just because they didn't want to humiliate her completely
- they use their power (and money) to kill the Hungarian League by buying all they have to buy from all the Hungarian clubs (thank God there is also FTC there which tries and succeeds from time to time to be a real contender for these greedy bastards and all the Hungarian handball fans should thank them for still having a decent NT who might be again on top sooner than anybody expects)

I couldn't help myself to demystify the so-called Queen of handball. so I chose to write this here so that the CSM fans shouldn't be bothered with these considerations.
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Doru Delavale » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:54 pm

swarthofole wrote:
Derp wrote:Not even Győr should ever humiliate her new signing with honestly declaring that they rely on her only for 6 months and they never even planned to build her into the team and they expect better signing in the meantime.


now this is just funny and that's because Gyor constantly humiliates players. they humiliate foreign players, they humiliate Hungarian players, they humiliate Hungarian youngsters, they humiliate Hungarian nation of handball at all costs. of course they are the mighty Champions and some of you prefer to see the bright side (which is very convenient and of course a natural thing when all you can think about is trophies). I am not against their success, they are maybe the most successful club in the world and I am really an admirer of these great achievements, but:

- Broch quits handball because of them (just to start with the end) and now Groot plans to get out of this madness
- many injured players because of overusing (and these relates very well with my 4th argument here): Mork etc
- El-Ghaoui, Mireya Gonzales and now Pintea (if that will be the case) signed and discarded; hilarious thing is that they paid a 50k fee for that, so they must be really crazy (and rich) bastards
- all these excuses they didn't find a Hungarian player to join them when in need are just a piece of crap; look at all those youngsters who just warm the bench and look at their all time star Gorbicz forced to play as a wing just because they didn't want to humiliate her completely
- they use their power (and money) to kill the Hungarian League by buying all they have to buy from all the Hungarian clubs (thank God there is also FTC there which tries and succeeds from time to time to be a real contender for these greedy bastards and all the Hungarian handball fans should thank them for still having a decent NT who might be again on top sooner than anybody expects)

I couldn't help myself to demystify the so-called Queen of handball. so I chose to write this here so that the CSM fans shouldn't be bothered with these considerations.


May be they want to humiliated Crina more, forcing (her) to fight her future team.... [-X

Or may be this was "gentleman's " agreement ! (with Luca) Who knows ? We shall see ! (you can have her 6 month but not against us ...)

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Anol » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:02 pm

swarthofole wrote:- El-Ghaoui, Mireya Gonzales and now Pintea (if that will be the case) signed and discarded; hilarious thing is that they paid a 50k fee for that, so they must be really crazy (and rich) bastards


Well Mireya Gonzales went to Györ on a loan if memory serves me right, so she knew what she was getting into.

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Derp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:13 pm

swarthofole wrote:
Derp wrote:Not even Győr should ever humiliate her new signing with honestly declaring that they rely on her only for 6 months and they never even planned to build her into the team and they expect better signing in the meantime.


now this is just funny and that's because Gyor constantly humiliates players. they humiliate foreign players, they humiliate Hungarian players, they humiliate Hungarian youngsters, they humiliate Hungarian nation of handball at all costs. of course they are the mighty Champions and some of you prefer to see the bright side (which is very convenient and of course a natural thing when all you can think about is trophies). I am not against their success, they are maybe the most successful club in the world and I am really an admirer of these great achievements, but:

- Broch quits handball because of them (just to start with the end) and now Groot plans to get out of this madness
- many injured players because of overusing (and these relates very well with my 4th argument here): Mork etc
- El-Ghaoui, Mireya Gonzales and now Pintea (if that will be the case) signed and discarded; hilarious thing is that they paid a 50k fee for that, so they must be really crazy (and rich) bastards
- all these excuses they didn't find a Hungarian player to join them when in need are just a piece of crap; look at all those youngsters who just warm the bench and look at their all time star Gorbicz forced to play as a wing just because they didn't want to humiliate her completely
- they use their power (and money) to kill the Hungarian League by buying all they have to buy from all the Hungarian clubs (thank God there is also FTC there which tries and succeeds from time to time to be a real contender for these greedy bastards and all the Hungarian handball fans should thank them for still having a decent NT who might be again on top sooner than anybody expects)

I couldn't help myself to demystify the so-called Queen of handball. so I chose to write this here so that the CSM fans shouldn't be bothered with these considerations.


Well, my point about humuliation was of different nature though I understand your concerns and partially agree with it.
Only partially as Győr definitely doesn't serve the Hungarian NT nor does it much to make the CL competition look fair. The question is however if this is their job or not?
And I think this is not easy to answer.

On the other hand I really don't believe that they humiliate their players let it be Hungarian or foreigner.
I know that this could be argued as we all saw Görbicz's crying after their last CL victory, Broch's escape and the fact that almost all their Hungarian players are on loan somewhere in the world.
These are just everyday things in top handball that are present at all other teams too.
Look at the constant counter-example FTC and their recent scandals: chased away Monori, Steinbach. The huge dispute with Zácsik. Now they are angry at Faluvégi because she signed for Győr,etc.
The fact that FTC uses mostly indigenous players can either be a choice or a must, a feature or bug, true commitment or virtue signalling.

Believe me that I am not against any of these teams, I like them both but I would never think that any of them would prefer a foreigner just because she is a foreigner or a home player just because she is a home player.
They all have the same goal at the end and they must pick the best they can afford no matter what. If it is a Hungarian player, that is an even bigger win. However the players are all aware of the same situation and if not, Mátyás Farkas is telling them for sure...
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby swarthofole » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:03 pm

you got it all wrong. I didn't state they treat foreign players like hell and Hungarian players like goddesses.
they are all subject of the same ruthless treatment. ;)

and I also don't argue their choice to sign foreign players, it's just the way they sign and release players, they overuse them etc...
I also didn't mention about their dominant position in CL, that doesn't bother me at all. they deserve it, they win it.
overall it's just about their way of doing things.

just read again my post.

PS: unfortunately the sport is not yet ready for the rules that apply in economy, but I think there is a great need for that. rich teams should be stopped in order to keep the competition alive. they try that in football, but not very convincing imho.
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby swarthofole » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:14 pm

Anol wrote:
swarthofole wrote:- El-Ghaoui, Mireya Gonzales and now Pintea (if that will be the case) signed and discarded; hilarious thing is that they paid a 50k fee for that, so they must be really crazy (and rich) bastards


Well Mireya Gonzales went to Györ on a loan if memory serves me right, so she knew what she was getting into.

you are right, my bad about that.
I can't think right now about others, but I guess you got my point.
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Derp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:48 pm

swarthofole wrote:you got it all wrong. I didn't state they treat foreign players like hell and Hungarian players like goddesses.
they are all subject of the same ruthless treatment. ;)

and I also don't argue their choice to sign foreign players, it's just the way they sign and release players, they overuse them etc...
I also didn't mention about their dominant position in CL, that doesn't bother me at all. they deserve it, they win it.
overall it's just about their way of doing things.

just read again my post.

PS: unfortunately the sport is not yet ready for the rules that apply in economy, but I think there is a great need for that. rich teams should be stopped in order to keep the competition alive. they try that in football, but not very convincing imho.


I did not misunderstand you. Neither you, nor I think that they treat home and foreigners differently.
My point was that I doubt that they 'treat them ruthlessly' or even if they seem to do so, it is not because they want to do it like that.
I think the top level players are suffering because the sport itself is developing the way the men's game does so it is becoming too fast, too violent with too many matches per season. This way the 'regular usage' of the common players became really exhausting.
Though I admit there would be potential resolutions but all those would have a big cost that the clubs either cannot afford or they don't want to spend on(not 2 but 3 equally good players in a single position; more advanced physical conditioning,etc.)

There are however very visible crazy decisions at most clubs. E.g. I will never understand how Elek exactly imagined this season while singing 3 players with fresh ACL injuries...
And of course the rest of the players suffer the most.
So I think the injuries and exhaustion are rather the consequences of inappropriate/irresponsible team management
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby swarthofole » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:13 pm

Derp wrote:So I think the injuries and exhaustion are rather the consequences of inappropriate/irresponsible team management


some bad decisions of coaches, some bad decisions of management, not pointing my finger to someone.

but I still think they are so blind when it comes to trophies so it doesn't really matter what they have to do in order to achieve that. player's health, we don't care about, player's feelings, we don't care about that either and so on.
and you could add to that a lot of hypocrisy.

not saying this doesn't happen to others, there are so many I don't even want to remember all that.
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Anol » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:57 pm

swarthofole wrote:
Anol wrote:
swarthofole wrote:- El-Ghaoui, Mireya Gonzales and now Pintea (if that will be the case) signed and discarded; hilarious thing is that they paid a 50k fee for that, so they must be really crazy (and rich) bastards


Well Mireya Gonzales went to Györ on a loan if memory serves me right, so she knew what she was getting into.

you are right, my bad about that.
I can't think right now about others, but I guess you got my point.


Sure, and I didn't write the post to disprove you points. Just wanted to correct a small detail :)

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Derp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:06 pm

swarthofole wrote:
Derp wrote:So I think the injuries and exhaustion are rather the consequences of inappropriate/irresponsible team management


some bad decisions of coaches, some bad decisions of management, not pointing my finger to someone.

but I still think they are so blind when it comes to trophies so it doesn't really matter what they have to do in order to achieve that. player's health, we don't care about, player's feelings, we don't care about that either and so on.
and you could add to that a lot of hypocrisy.

not saying this doesn't happen to others, there are so many I don't even want to remember all that.


Yeah, good question in fact who makes these decisions.
I know that since ages now in Hungary one side tends to blame the ACL injuries on Ambros Martín.
I think injuries cannot be predicted but decisions can be. E.g. FTC knew that the 3 players with ACL won't play at all in the upcoming season so in fact it is just if they never really existed. That is what I call irresponsibility.
anyway we spent too much time on this topic.

A fun fact: someone has already added Nze Minko to Győr on Wikipedia.
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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

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GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC: 5 X CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WINNER (2013,2014,2017,2018,2019) 15 X HUNGARIAN CHAMPION (1957,1959,2005,2006,2008-2014,2016,2017,2018,2019, 14 X HUNGARIAN CUP WINNER (2005-2016, 2018,2019)

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Re: Hungarian Handball League 2018/2019

Postby Jig » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:57 pm

ALBA FEHÉRVÁR KC–GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC 29–39 (14—21)

FEHÉRVÁR: Györkös – Nascimento 4 (1), Gorsenyina 3, ZSILINSZKAJTYE 4, Boldizsár 1, MENDY 4, Szarka A. 1, Mistina, Temes 2 (1), Varga E. 1, PELCZÉDER 4, Májer 2, Rózsás, Utasi 2, Sztankovics 1, Tornóczky.
GYŐR: Grimsbö – Bódi 2, V. KRISTIANSEN 4, Groot 4 (2), PINTEA 6, Tomori 2, Puhalák 1, Kiss É, , BRATTSET 6, S. OFTEDAL 6, A. HANSEN 5, Görbicz 3, Afentaler, Pál

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GYŐRI AUDI ETO KC: 5 X CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WINNER (2013,2014,2017,2018,2019) 15 X HUNGARIAN CHAMPION (1957,1959,2005,2006,2008-2014,2016,2017,2018,2019, 14 X HUNGARIAN CUP WINNER (2005-2016, 2018,2019)


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