2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

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2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Jig » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:17 am

Fri Oct 05
CSM Bucuresti - FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria

Sat Oct 06
Győri Audi ETO KC - RK Krim Mercator
Buducnost - Odense HC
Vipers Kristiansand - SG BBM Bietigheim
Kobenhavn Handball - Brest Bretagne Handball
Rostov-Don - IK Sävehof

Sun Oct 07
Metz Handball - Larvik HK
Thüringer HC - HC Podravka Vegeta


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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby bajkalb » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:22 am

Jig wrote:Fri Oct 05
CSM Bucuresti - FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria

Sat Oct 06
Győri Audi ETO KC - RK Krim Mercator
Buducnost - Odense HC
Vipers Kristiansand - SG BBM Bietigheim
Kobenhavn Handball - Brest Bretagne Handball
Rostov-Don - IK Sävehof

Sun Oct 07
Metz Handball - Larvik HK
Thüringer HC - HC Podravka Vegeta


Do not want to duplicate it. Totally agree

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Lucy » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:09 am

Vipers - Bietigheim

Bietigheim won both matches last year
And and both team are weaker this year
But a keygame for these two teams
I think FTC and Bucuresti is way stronger

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby vlad_impaler » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:25 am

Lucy wrote:Vipers - Bietigheim

Bietigheim won both matches last year
And and both team are weaker this year
But a keygame for these two teams
I think FTC and Bucuresti is way stronger


Vipers are not weaker, lol. And the favourites must be Vipers.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby John » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:54 pm

Fri Oct 05
CSM Bucuresti - FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria 85% - 15%
From my perspective a clear win for CSM, and i was being generous with these 15% given to FTC because i wrote 0% at first.
Too many injured or players that went on a break for FTC, CSM on the other hand not playing a nice handball but still should win this only because of better players and individual quality and they play at home.
Let the urine show begin :lol:

Sat Oct 06
Győri Audi ETO KC - RK Krim Mercator 100%-0%
Here i can definitely give Krim zero chances of winning. I expect 30+ goals from Gyor. Krim has the poorest team in years this season.

Buducnost - Odense HC 90%-10%
Anything but a Buducnost win would be a shock here. Buducnost is very strong at home, Odense is a newcomer. Buducnost plays in a "new" Moraca, Varvari started coming to basketball matches maybe they will come back to handball matches too. Odense has some good players, but like every other danish team one game they shine the other one they are a complete disaster. IMO this will end either with Buducnost completely crushing Odense or a win by 3-4 goals. But let's wait and see.

Vipers Kristiansand - SG BBM Bietigheim 50%-50%
I gave them equal chances for only one reason. The coach of Vipers. If the old coach was there i would give advantage to BBM.
Really don't know how this can/will end. Whoever wins from me it's not a surprise.

Kobenhavn Handball - Brest Bretagne Handball 45%-55%
I gave a small advantage to Brest not because i'm impressed but because Kobehavn plays really bad lately. But this is CL, they play at home, and in danish championship they can finish 8th and later become champions so maybe they saved something for Brest. Whoever wins also not a surprise for me.

Rostov-Don - IK Sävehof 100%-0%
I would give Savehof 0% even against Podravka. They are the worst team in CL in my opinion. And will will probably exit with 6 defeats.

Sun Oct 07
Metz Handball - Larvik HK 90%-10%
Metz dominates at home. They are really strong there and Larvik is still in the process of building a team.

Thüringer HC - HC Podravka Vegeta 100%-0%
I think this is the best team that THC has ever had. So many players on the same level, you cannot notice the difference if someone goes to the bench. I think they can make some surprises this year. I definitely see them in QF. Podravka is not very strong but has a decent team that can cause trouble to Krim and maybe but just maybe to THC at home. But i don't see them winning away.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Corbantis » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:56 pm

Fri Oct 05
CSM Bucuresti - FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria

Sat Oct 06
Győri Audi ETO KC - RK Krim Mercator
Buducnost - Odense HC
Vipers Kristiansand - SG BBM Bietigheim
Kobenhavn Handball - Brest Bretagne Handball
Rostov-Don - IK Sävehof

Sun Oct 07
Metz Handball - Larvik HK
Thüringer HC - HC Podravka Vegeta

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Derp » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:03 pm

John wrote:Fri Oct 05
CSM Bucuresti - FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria 85% - 15%
From my perspective a clear win for CSM, and i was being generous with these 15% given to FTC because i wrote 0% at first.
Too many injured or players that went on a break for FTC, CSM on the other hand not playing a nice handball but still should win this only because of better players and individual quality and they play at home.
Let the urine show begin :lol:

Sat Oct 06
Győri Audi ETO KC - RK Krim Mercator 100%-0%
Here i can definitely give Krim zero chances of winning. I expect 30+ goals from Gyor. Krim has the poorest team in years this season.

Buducnost - Odense HC 90%-10%
Anything but a Buducnost win would be a shock here. Buducnost is very strong at home, Odense is a newcomer. Buducnost plays in a "new" Moraca, Varvari started coming to basketball matches maybe they will come back to handball matches too. Odense has some good players, but like every other danish team one game they shine the other one they are a complete disaster. IMO this will end either with Buducnost completely crushing Odense or a win by 3-4 goals. But let's wait and see.

Vipers Kristiansand - SG BBM Bietigheim 50%-50%
I gave them equal chances for only one reason. The coach of Vipers. If the old coach was there i would give advantage to BBM.
Really don't know how this can/will end. Whoever wins from me it's not a surprise.

Kobenhavn Handball - Brest Bretagne Handball 45%-55%
I gave a small advantage to Brest not because i'm impressed but because Kobehavn plays really bad lately. But this is CL, they play at home, and in danish championship they can finish 8th and later become champions so maybe they saved something for Brest. Whoever wins also not a surprise for me.

Rostov-Don - IK Sävehof 100%-0%
I would give Savehof 0% even against Podravka. They are the worst team in CL in my opinion. And will will probably exit with 6 defeats.

Sun Oct 07
Metz Handball - Larvik HK 90%-10%
Metz dominates at home. They are really strong there and Larvik is still in the process of building a team.

Thüringer HC - HC Podravka Vegeta 100%-0%
I think this is the best team that THC has ever had. So many players on the same level, you cannot notice the difference if someone goes to the bench. I think they can make some surprises this year. I definitely see them in QF. Podravka is not very strong but has a decent team that can cause trouble to Krim and maybe but just maybe to THC at home. But i don't see them winning away.


Normally I'd say that CSM would win over FTC easily but this time I feel that FTC is strong and confident and can cause a surprise.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby vlad_impaler » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:04 pm

John wrote:
Let the urine show begin :lol:


The match is at CSM, not at FTC. We have never thrown with urine! #-o

Plus you don't have such an easy match against Odense.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby John » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:23 pm

Derp wrote:Normally I'd say that CSM would win over FTC easily but this time I feel that FTC is strong and confident and can cause a surprise.


FTC's right side is the problem, they can't afford not even a single player to have a bad day while CSM has a longer bench. Of course, FTC can make a surprise but i guess you believe in it more than me at this moment. In Budapest maybe but in Bucharest hmm.
But i'm excited to watch Noni and cheering for her :)

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:08 pm

Fri Oct 05
CSM Bucuresti - FTC Rail Cargo Hungaria 70% Live on Digisport 1

Sat Oct 06
Győri Audi ETO KC - RK Krim Mercator 100%
Buducnost - Odense HC 55%
Vipers Kristiansand - SG BBM Bietigheim 55%
Kobenhavn Handball - Brest Bretagne Handball 55%
Rostov-Don - IK Sävehof 100% Live on Digisport 4

Sun Oct 07
Metz Handball - Larvik HK 90%
Thüringer HC - HC Podravka Vegeta 70%

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Derp » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:28 pm

John wrote:
Derp wrote:Normally I'd say that CSM would win over FTC easily but this time I feel that FTC is strong and confident and can cause a surprise.


FTC's right side is the problem, they can't afford not even a single player to have a bad day while CSM has a longer bench. Of course, FTC can make a surprise but i guess you believe in it more than me at this moment. In Budapest maybe but in Bucharest hmm.
But i'm excited to watch Noni and cheering for her :)


You know, FTC is always underestimated and remember their abysmal victory over Valcea then in Romania, who saw that coming?
Also I like the FTC's wingers very much and Kovacic is in great form too.
Perhaps I just don't have much information about CSM this year yet but they had even bigger changes than FTC.
LEt's just see the match.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby will4104 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:02 pm

Derp wrote:Kovacic is in great form too.

If it is true, then she was hiding this great form very well in both games against Montenegro :P

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Doru Delavale » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:17 pm

Without Jacobsen, Jorgensen and even pivot Lobach in defence CSM is weaker, but hope CSM players will surpass themselves and stop individual-oldish playing....no one make gifts though your name is Neagu,Lekic,Kurtovic and so on....also hope Magnusson will play more in atack Bazaliu.

How I regret Carmen Martin both for atack but more for her defence...

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:58 am

John wrote:
FTC's right side is the problem, they can't afford not even a single player to have a bad day while CSM has a longer bench. Of course, FTC can make a surprise but i guess you believe in it more than me at this moment. In Budapest maybe but in Bucharest hmm.
But i'm excited to watch Noni and cheering for her :)


Not "the bench" is making the difference but the superior players.

Derp wrote:

You know, FTC is always underestimated and remember their abysmal victory over Valcea then in Romania, who saw that coming?
Also I like the FTC's wingers very much and Kovacic is in great form too.
Perhaps I just don't have much information about CSM this year yet but they had even bigger changes than FTC.
LEt's just see the match.


They don't have the mentality to do it, it was proven several times against CSM. Although not that much against ETO. I have watched some of Ferencvaros' interviews on Digi just before this match. They don't really believe in winning.

Doru Delavale wrote:Without Jacobsen, Jorgensen and even pivot Lobach in defence CSM is weaker, but hope CSM players will surpass themselves and stop individual-oldish playing....no one make gifts though your name is Neagu,Lekic,Kurtovic and so on....also hope Magnusson will play more in atack Bazaliu.

How I regret Carmen Martin both for atack but more for her defence...


Stop living in the past, we have Radicevic! Martin as a defender is not that good, just on positioning. Radicevic is harsher.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Corbantis » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:29 am

CSM can relax, Pena is injured, she won't play.... :evil: *steam*

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Derp » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:53 am

Corbantis wrote:CSM can relax, Pena is injured, she won't play.... :evil: *steam*


Yeah, just read it :(
Also Kuczora in Vác has an ACL injury yesterday?
Not sure why is all this happening...

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby swarthofole » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:11 am

Derp wrote:Not sure why is all this happening...

it is always possible to get an injury when you are a professional sportsman. not sure I understand what you meant.
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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Lucy » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:27 am

Vipers are not weaker, lol. And the favourites must be Vipers.[/quote]

Vipers lost Brattset/Lunde-Borgersen in defence and dont think they have replaiced it good enough with Tomac/Yttereng
And if Lunde has a bad day, they only have a 20 years old with no experience

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Derp » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:51 am

swarthofole wrote:
Derp wrote:Not sure why is all this happening...

it is always possible to get an injury when you are a professional sportsman. not sure I understand what you meant.


Last few years these injuries are devastating Hungarian clubs and the NT. This wasn't the situation back in time.
Some people blame the new playfield materials, some other say it is the fault of the coaches.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:21 pm

Lucy wrote:

Vipers lost Brattset/Lunde-Borgersen in defence and dont think they have replaiced it good enough with Tomac/Yttereng
And if Lunde has a bad day, they only have a 20 years old with no experience


They lost a granny and irreplaceable pivot?

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Corbantis » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:56 pm

Derp wrote:
swarthofole wrote:
Derp wrote:Not sure why is all this happening...

it is always possible to get an injury when you are a professional sportsman. not sure I understand what you meant.


Last few years these injuries are devastating Hungarian clubs and the NT. This wasn't the situation back in time.
Some people blame the new playfield materials, some other say it is the fault of the coaches.


It happened (again) in Győr...s**t Gerflor floor.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby settembrini » Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:35 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:
John wrote:
Let the urine show begin :lol:


We have never thrown with urine! #-o

We neither. The stupid Johansson lied and admitted it.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby vlad_impaler » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:20 pm

settembrini wrote:
We neither. The stupid Johansson lied and admitted it.


He admitted? WHEN? In my opinion swear words and other bad language, and maybe even those will happen again at FTC. WHY? Because of 30-40 (or a bit more) extremist tramps. You should kick them out from handball! And EHF didn't treat the matter very well. If it happens again, I will blame the EHF! Indoor there is no place for scums.

Just pray not to happen again! I go to Budapest for Final 4 and I can go easily, whilst in football there is hooliganism and Ferencvaros might even prepare themselves for the finals this season if the injuries are avoiding them.

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby settembrini » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:43 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:
settembrini wrote:
We neither. The stupid Johansson lied and admitted it.


He admitted? WHEN?

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Re: 2018/19 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 1

Postby Lucy » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:31 pm

vlad_impaler wrote:
Lucy wrote:

Vipers lost Brattset/Lunde-Borgersen in defence and dont think they have replaiced it good enough with Tomac/Yttereng
And if Lunde has a bad day, they only have a 20 years old with no experience


They lost a granny and irreplaceable pivot?


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