Derp wrote:If this type of 'burnout' would have affected any other player apart from the 2 Dutch crybabies, I'd agree with you but I don't know about anyone else.
The circumstances are fantastic, the fans are amazing, the support of the government is perfect, the level of the teammates is outstanding,etc.
I just don't think that there can be any valid complain from the players.
It was rather the case of being 'not hungry any more' and it is also fair enough. No one needs a player that isn't hungry for success and they split up very gently.
Where there would be a case for such complains is however FTC where Elek simply cannot handle foreigners well, does not have a good sense for signing and building in proper players, does not deal with the problem that some players are overused while some other positions are empty for years.
The burnout should be more prominent in that environment and still it isn't. These are pro players, goddesses of endurance and commitment... just like most players of Győr are too.
I really think that this is a Dutch habbit instead of the sign that something is wrong at Győr. They seem to be less hungry, that's all folks.
What a thoroughly awful thing to say about two players who have sacrificed so much for Györ only to get run down both physically and mentally by the club and its unwillingness to rest their players.
I support Györ myself but to claim that "the circumstances are fantastic" and that nothing is wrong is straight up untrue. When you have two players quit over how physically draining it is to play there – both mentioning that they lost the joy to play during their time there – those are not healthy working conditions. That is not a club that essentially cares about the physical and emotional well-being of their players. And it's definitely
a valid complaint. It's been half a season and Groot still isn't at 100% because of the achilles tendon injury she brought home with her from Györ.
Speaking of which, I think a huge elephant in the room concerning Györ is their accumulation of injuries. I feel it is uncharacteristically large every season – especially if, as you claim, "the circumstances are fantastic" – and I'd bet a lot of them are rooted in overuse.
And don't pretend this is something new or something particularly Dutch. You had Jamina Roberts coming back from Érd saying something eerily similar (only she didn't mince her words about the things she endured like Groot and Broch did).
Okay. Let's pretend that I alone simply lost the joy commenting here so I tell you all, guys, I'm leaving. I got mentally and physically tired...
Does this simple thing indicate that something is very wrong on this forum, the leaders should assess the situation, resign,etc?
No. If there would be 20-30 of us here claiming the same, than I'd say it can be valid.
But returning to the Győr's case, tell anyone else apart from the Dutch princesses, who was dissatisfied because of 'overuse'.
I saw only the reverse: Görbicz 'crying in the corner' because a better player is favoured instead as a PM...
Especially for Groot such a claim should be accepted with laughter.
Was there even a pressure on injured players to come back earlier?
I think Győr could be considered the most patient team ever.
But I think everything is right as is now. There are hundreds of other girls eager to 'suffer' and 'cry from pain' if they can finally hold the trophy. A team for CL expectations must keep only hungry players and not satisfied or fastidious ones. I never heard such outcries even from FTC where this is indeed a recent issue, a problem that has been going on for years.
I admit Broch's and especially Groot's great talent, I would have never denied it or their amazing effectiveness on the field. My problem is with their surprising attitude lately.
Jamina Roberts did not get playtime and actually Edina Szabo is just a witch, a tyrann, this is a known fact.
BTW Jamina did not come to Érd to 'step a level up' but to finally play at the same place where his boyfriend does(not sure what his name was but that guy joined Budakalász at the same time) in order to live together. None of them got what they expected so they both left their teams, together again, after a single year. It has nothing to do with overuse, especially for Roberts.
I can recall the fans arguing about her while they saw her playing so much and very well in the Swedish NT while she was playing only minutes and mostly poorly in Érd.
Regarding injuries can you present any statistics that at Győr the number of injuries or their seriousness is higher than at other teams?
Görbicz-Tomori wasn't even playing for Győr when they got both ACL on the same match.
Mörk's knee was practically held together only by wires(her very first step at CSM exactly proved it).
The reason for the abnormal number of injuries has something to do with female biology: they have not only less upper-bodymass, but also weaker ligaments. The speed of the handball is just too fast nowadays for average women.