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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Corbantis » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:22 pm

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According to this article, the Hungarian Federation requested CHL upgrade on behalf of Siofok as well, but it was denied by EHF.

http://www.nemzetisport.hu/kezilabda/ke ... be-2766623



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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Bo$ko » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:12 pm

They knew it's possible to apply for only one team. They are joking with Siofok only... Idiots.
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Gojira » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:12 pm

Bo$ko wrote:They knew it's possible to apply for only one team. They are joking with Siofok only... Idiots.

EHF might have chosen Siófok. It was their decision.

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby OltchimRmValcea » Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:19 am

Gojira wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:They knew it's possible to apply for only one team. They are joking with Siofok only... Idiots.

EHF might have chosen Siófok. It was their decision.

Gojira, you should stop with lies (spreading hungarian federation lies) and start read regulations... viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6845&p=179979#p179972
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Bo$ko » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:08 am

Gojira is dumb when it matters to FTC... :lol:
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby YeppX » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:26 am

Gojira wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:They knew it's possible to apply for only one team. They are joking with Siofok only... Idiots.

EHF might have chosen Siófok. It was their decision.


Not they couldn't. The rules say that every federation can request a single upgrade for CL. The Hungarian federations could have asked for 10 WCs, it wouldn't matter because the rules say you can ask for only one. So EHF was forced to take into consderation only the first team for an upgrade, which was FTC, in the order decided by the Hungarian federation.

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Germanicus » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:35 am

Gojira wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:They knew it's possible to apply for only one team. They are joking with Siofok only... Idiots.

EHF might have chosen Siófok. It was their decision.

No, it obviously was not.
In conclusion, I declare that EHF must be destroyed

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Gojira » Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:51 am

OltchimRmValcea wrote:
Gojira wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:They knew it's possible to apply for only one team. They are joking with Siofok only... Idiots.

EHF might have chosen Siófok. It was their decision.

Gojira, you should stop with lies (spreading hungarian federation lies) and start read regulations... viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6845&p=179979#p179972


IIt's not me who spreads lies:

https://www.mksz.hu/v2h/018/003/p_003.a ... %20idenyre

"A Magyar Kézilabda Szövetség benyújtotta a Siófok KC és az FTC-Rail Cargo Hungaria szabadkártya-igényét a női Bajnokok Ligája versenyeire, az Európai Kézilabda Szövetség azonban csak az utóbbit fogadta be."

Read it with Google translate and then apologize.

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby mikh » Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:41 am

Gojira wrote:
IIt's not me who spreads lies:

https://www.mksz.hu/v2h/018/003/p_003.a ... %20idenyre

"A Magyar Kézilabda Szövetség benyújtotta a Siófok KC és az FTC-Rail Cargo Hungaria szabadkártya-igényét a női Bajnokok Ligája versenyeire, az Európai Kézilabda Szövetség azonban csak az utóbbit fogadta be."

Read it with Google translate and then apologize.


This provides 0 context.
First of all, the Hungarian Handball Federation should've never submitted 2 requests. They are only allowed to submit 1. In submitting two requests, they passed their own responsibility to the EHF.
Even when submitting two requests, it's not clear what "but the EHF only accepted the latter" even means. I find it hard to believe EHF looked at it and said: "oh, FTC or Siofok, defo FTC!"
I think it was more along the lines: "FTC or Siofok? Choose!". To which HHF said...?

Things could be solved easily: make the correspondence between EHF and HHF public. Then we'll know who really screwed Siofok. And then, what do you think will happen to Siofok, because that's the most important in the end? Unfortunately, in the grand scheme of things (which can be as little as the world of handball), does anyone besides Siofok and us here care about this? (and I am not saying this with malice)

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Gojira » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:20 am

mikh wrote:
Gojira wrote:
IIt's not me who spreads lies:

https://www.mksz.hu/v2h/018/003/p_003.a ... %20idenyre

"A Magyar Kézilabda Szövetség benyújtotta a Siófok KC és az FTC-Rail Cargo Hungaria szabadkártya-igényét a női Bajnokok Ligája versenyeire, az Európai Kézilabda Szövetség azonban csak az utóbbit fogadta be."

Read it with Google translate and then apologize.


This provides 0 context.
First of all, the Hungarian Handball Federation should've never submitted 2 requests. They are only allowed to submit 1. In submitting two requests, they passed their own responsibility to the EHF.
Even when submitting two requests, it's not clear what "but the EHF only accepted the latter" even means. I find it hard to believe EHF looked at it and said: "oh, FTC or Siofok, defo FTC!"
I think it was more along the lines: "FTC or Siofok? Choose!". To which HHF said...?

Things could be solved easily: make the correspondence between EHF and HHF public. Then we'll know who really screwed Siofok. And then, what do you think will happen to Siofok, because that's the most important in the end? Unfortunately, in the grand scheme of things (which can be as little as the world of handball), does anyone besides Siofok and us here care about this? (and I am not saying this with malice)


I only responded because I was called a liar. But you are right in some things:

(1) "First of all, the Hungarian Handball Federation should've never submitted 2 requests." That's true.
(2) "In submitting two requests, they passed their own responsibility to the EHF." Yes.

And some more answers:

(1) "make the correspondence between EHF and HHF public." Ask them to make it public :D
(2) "Then we'll know who really screwed Siofok." We already know it: COVID-19. Without the pandemic they probably would have finished as runners-up.
(3) "does anyone besides Siofok and us here care about this" Noone. Even here only 2-3 people keep this thing alive.

"does anyone besides Siofok and us here care about this" Noone.

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby OltchimRmValcea » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:34 am

Gojira, you just wrote this, without any quote:
"EHF might have chosen Siófok. It was their decision."

This is a lie. :D EHF might not have chosen Siofok. It's up to your federation what they choose, and they chose FTC, it was their decision and you know that. :D

Bo$ko wrote:Gojira is dumb when it matters to FTC... :lol:

Tend to agree...
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Bo$ko » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:29 pm

MKSZ sent FTC and that's clear and it was obvious from the beginning... and to hide the scandal about their decision, they just decided to apply like - "hey EHF, take also Siofok in CL, look, they have strong team" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Bo$ko » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:32 pm

MKSZ decision had a background. They preferred FTC in order to have national team players in CL as a preparation for Olympic Qual. Tournament on home field.

But... they forgot that FTC bought so many foreigners, I don't remember they ever had so many foreigners. :lol:
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Germanicus » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:37 pm

Bo$ko wrote:But... they forgot that FTC bought so many foreigners, I don't remember they ever had so many foreigners. :lol:

Theoretically two years ago. But you can't remember, since both players from your nation were injured all the time.
In conclusion, I declare that EHF must be destroyed

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Bo$ko » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:58 pm

They are not signed to have leading roles, as German trio and Malestein will have.
You got my point, I'm sure... 8:)
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Germanicus » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:04 pm

Bo$ko wrote:They are not signed to have leading roles, as German trio and Malestein will have.
You got my point, I'm sure... 8:)

Yes, I got. However, I disagree. Gábor Elek is the coach of the Hungarian national team, and coach of a club wich may only play in CL in order to let players of the national team there. So he will be under pressure, he must not give foreig players leading roles. Perhaps in right wing where FTC player Kovács is not in the national team. But I expect the main task of the German girls will be to keep the bench warm.
In conclusion, I declare that EHF must be destroyed

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Bo$ko » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:10 pm

Germanicus wrote: to keep the bench warm.

Probably, you will be right... :lol:
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Corbantis » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:21 pm

http://ehfcl.com/en/women/News/1W4lGzOv ... ue_2020_21

DELO EHF Champions League 2020/21:
HC Podravka Vegeta (CRO)
Odense Handbold (DEN)
Team Esbjerg (DEN)
Brest Bretagne Handball (FRA)
Metz Handball (FRA)
Borussia Dortmund (GER)
SG BBM Bietigheim (GER)
FTC-Rail Cargo Hungaria (HUN)
Györi Audi ETO KC (HUN)
WHC Buducnost (MNE)
Vipers Kristiansand (NOR)
CSM Bucuresti (ROU)
SCM Rm Valcea (ROU)
CSKA (RUS)
Rostov-Don (RUS)
RK Krim Mercator (SLO)

Substitution teams
1 – DHK Banik Most
2 – Storhamar Handball

Group phase draw
The group phase draw will be hosted on Wednesday 1 July at 18:00 CEST in Vienna and will be streamed live on ehfTV.com, ehfTV YouTube channel and on the competition's Facebook page. The seeding list and the draw procedure of the draw event will be published in the upcoming days.

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Bo$ko » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:49 pm

Group Stage DRAW

Pot 1 - Györ, Rostov Don, Metz, Valcea
Pot 2 - Budućnost, Esbjerg, Vipers, Borussia
Pot 3 - CSKA, FTC, Brest, CSM Bucharest
Pot 4 - Krim, Podravka, Odense, BBM
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby John » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:11 pm

Based on the draw from previous years i expect one idiotic group like Gyor, Valcea, Vipers, Borussia, CSKA, Brest, Odense, Krim and the other super strong group.

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Bfg97 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:20 pm

VÂLCEA higher pot than csm. Basicly the title beats team coeficient.

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby swarthofole » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:35 pm

John wrote:Based on the draw from previous years i expect one idiotic group like Gyor, Valcea, Vipers, Borussia, CSKA, Brest, Odense, Krim and the other super strong group.

all for glory, my friend, all for glory...
but Vipers are getting stronger, CSKA are the new Brest, Odense is pretty good (not being sarcastic)...
So I think Gyor will lose only to Brest. :D
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby YeppX » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:01 am

Bfg97 wrote:VÂLCEA higher pot than csm. Basicly the title beats team coeficient.


For the pots the country coefficient is taken into consideration and not the teams coefficient. Valcea was ROU1 and CSM was ROU2.

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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby HB9 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:35 pm

Corbantis wrote:Substitution teams
1 – DHK Banik Most
2 – Storhamar Handball

Shouldn't there be more substitutes? With the way things are right now, some regions can not be travelled to, unless you want to be quarantined for two weeks (impractical) and some are close to suffering the same fate. Or maybe they will just cut down the groups...
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Re: 2020/21 EHF Champions League

Postby Corbantis » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:12 am

John wrote:Based on the draw from previous years i expect one idiotic group like Gyor, Valcea, Vipers, Borussia, CSKA, Brest, Odense, Krim and the other super strong group.


Almost got it....

Valcea, Gyor, Podravka, Dortmund, Moscow, Brest, Odense, Koprivnica


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