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2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby Ivar » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:07 pm

Group A: (Herning)
Denmark
Czech Republic
Macedonia
Austria

Group B: (Aalborg)
Spain
Iceland
Hungary
Norway

Group C: (Aarhus)
Serbia
France
Poland
Russia

Group D: (Copenhagen)
Croatia
Sweden
Belarus
Montenegro

No surprises in the locations of the groups.

Denmark got pretty lucky in the draw, but I think they would've finished on top no matter what. I think the Czech Republic will get second place, but the third place is harder to predict.

Group B will be interesting. Iceland have a chance to avenge their Olympic disaster against Hungary on their second home court, and we'll see if either of them will manage to beat Spain. Norway is dangerous, too, especially in Denmark.

Group C is probably the most even group. Serbia and Russia are put up against each other again. France aren't what they used to be, and neither is Poland, but I think any of these teams can come out on top.

The last group will be interesting. Usually I'd say Croatia would win the group, but Sweden is playing one bridge away from Sweden, so the competition will be fierce.



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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby RukometSRB » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:35 pm

Hard group for us, we beat Russia twice in this qf but those were extremely tough matches (one goal difference in both), while we played with the Poland in all three previous tournaments, 1-1+that draw in Olympics qf.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby karel » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:42 am

Not bad draw for Poalnd. Of course, it was possible to get some weaker rivals, but I if we still want to mean anything in world handball we can't be affraid of such teams like Serbia or Russia - with all the respect for them. We have always had problems palying against France, but they aren't as good as they used to be (frankly saying we are weaker too...), so maybe it is time ti take a revange on them? However - this group is really open and any place is possible for Poland, but I can't imagine we are not in the second stage.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby omak » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:29 pm

This topic seems like the most appropriate.
Rumours that Pribak and Vugrinec will play for Macedonia at the upcoming ECH. Supposedly, Pribak gave no thought and immediately accepted the offer to play for Macedonia, while Vugrinec is still stalling with the decision. However, RFM is confident that he will accept, as well.
Everything should be clear by 10.12.2013, the deadline for the preliminary squads.

If this is really true, then I expect great things from a team like that.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby Grzymisław » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:03 am

omak wrote:This topic seems like the most appropriate.
Rumours that Pribak and Vugrinec will play for Macedonia at the upcoming ECH. Supposedly, Pribak gave no thought and immediately accepted the offer to play for Macedonia, while Vugrinec is still stalling with the decision. However, RFM is confident that he will accept, as well.
Everything should be clear by 10.12.2013, the deadline for the preliminary squads.

If this is really true, then I expect great things from a team like that.

Do you think any chance for combined Lazarov and Vugrinec somehow?

I won't write any predictions yet, as injury situation isn't clear for many teams yet.
Looks like Denmark goes clearly in. And with all the home advantage they're real favourites.

Poland is among teams who hasn't clear injury situation with Jurecki brothers or Mariusz Jurkiewicz and Krzysztof Lijewski not sure to play. With all of them we should go through. But missing any of them it would be not an easy task at all.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby omak » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:25 pm

Grzymisław wrote:
omak wrote:This topic seems like the most appropriate.
Rumours that Pribak and Vugrinec will play for Macedonia at the upcoming ECH. Supposedly, Pribak gave no thought and immediately accepted the offer to play for Macedonia, while Vugrinec is still stalling with the decision. However, RFM is confident that he will accept, as well.
Everything should be clear by 10.12.2013, the deadline for the preliminary squads.

If this is really true, then I expect great things from a team like that.

Do you think any chance for combined Lazarov and Vugrinec somehow?

I won't write any predictions yet, as injury situation isn't clear for many teams yet.
Looks like Denmark goes clearly in. And with all the home advantage they're real favourites.

Poland is among teams who hasn't clear injury situation with Jurecki brothers or Mariusz Jurkiewicz and Krzysztof Lijewski not sure to play. With all of them we should go through. But missing any of them it would be not an easy task at all.


Well, they got the citizenship and they are listed in the preliminary Macedonian squad, which was sent yesterday to EHF.
Now, EHF must confirm (or not) that they are eligible to play for Macedonia.

Vugrinec hasn't played for Slovenia for 4 years, while Pribak's last game for Serbia B was on 15.01.2011. Which means, if they are allowed to play, Vugi can play from the first match, while Pribak will miss the group matches.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby meteo » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:59 pm

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby Deuce » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:23 pm

meteo wrote:They are not on the published list

Pribak is. And there is only 27 names on Macedonian list, one is missing. Typo? Or maybe it's possible to add one name later?
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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby omak » Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:52 am

Apparently, if a naturalized player is to play for another country, he has to fulfill 2 requirements:
- 3 years since his last match for the previous national team
- 2 years of continuous living in his new country

In Vugi's case, the second condition is not met, since he came to Macedonia in September 2012. At least that is the explanation they gave.
If EHF allows this, then Vugi'll play.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby omak » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:06 am

Mojsovki tore up his ACL and lateral meniscus in yesterday's match between Vardar and Metalurg. He'll be out for 6 months, maybe more.
The surgery will be performed in Vienna in about 2-3 days.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby Ivar » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:03 pm

Alexander Petersson right back of Iceland will miss this tournament due to shoulder injury.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby Grzymisław » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:16 am

Ivar wrote:Alexander Petersson right back of Iceland will miss this tournament due to shoulder injury.

What happened by the way? He played in all recent games of Rhein-Neckar and scored some goals.

According to handball-world.com(informed a week ago) another famous player to miss Euro 2014 is Arpad Sterbik.
It seems that Spain finished selecting the team for upcoming tournament already:
GK:Gonzalo Pérez de Vargas (Fenix Toulouse HB/FRA), José Manuel Sierra (PSG/FRA)
LW:Valero Rivera Folch (HBC Nantes/FRA), Cristian Ugalde (Veszprém KC/HUN)
RW:Víctor Tomás (FC Barcelona), Albert Rocas (KIF Kolding Kopenhagen/DEN),
LP:Julen Aginagalde (KS Kielce/POL), Gedeón Guardiola (Rhein-Neckar Löwen)
LB:Antonio García (PSG/FRA), Carlos Ruesga (Veszprém KC/HUN), Viran Morros (FC Barcelona)
CB:Daniel Sarmiento (FC Barcelona), Joan Cañellas (HSV Hamburg), Raúl Entrerríos (FC Barcelona)
RB:Jorge Maqueda (HBC Nantes/FRA), Alex Dujshebaev (HC Vardar Skopje/MKD)

Before they had 18 players only, other going out(due to injury) is Iosu Goni, propably one of the strongest candidates to get out.
Missing Sterbik, experienced backshooters like Alberto Entrerrios, Iker Romero(hard to say Spain has any real powershooter then what makes them even more predictable) and with Aguinagalde far from his previous seasons' form Spain seems to be still strong, but not main medal candidate.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby william » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:38 am

Grzymisław wrote:
Ivar wrote:Alexander Petersson right back of Iceland will miss this tournament due to shoulder injury.

What happened by the way? He played in all recent games of Rhein-Neckar and scored some goals.

Petersson has permant problems with his shoulder and missed the first part of the season. He ist past his 30 now and I guess he needs to take care of his body if he wants to qualify for another contract. RNL play a good season still have some goals for their own.

@Omak Filip Lazarov is out for injury as well, did I get this right?

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby Grzymisław » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:56 pm

So list of absences isn't that long this season. Pierre Soudry is another man to miss the tournament. Hard for France to replace. I hope Laszlo Nagy will be able to compete. Maybe not at his best, but at least close to.
All Polish injured players who were questionable - Bartosz and Michał Jurecki, Mariusz Jurkiewicz, Krzysztof Lijewski and Kamil Syprzak are among remaining candidates for selection.
Any team finished selection except Spain?

Likely to be is Swedish team(listed at http://www.svenskhandboll.se/Landslag/Trupper/HerrarA/ what isn't for me very reliable, as listed crew may not refer to Euro 2014):
GK:Mattias Andersson(SG Flensburg-Handewitt/GER), Johan Sjöstrand(THW Kiel/GER)
LW:Fredrik Petersen(Füchse Berlin/GER), Jonas Källman(IFK Skövde)
RW:Niklas Ekberg(THW Kiel/GER), Mattias Zachrisson(Füchse Berlin/GER)
LP:Andreas Nilsson(HSV Hamburg/GER), Jesper Nielsen(Füchse Berlin/GER)
LB:Kim Ekdahl Du Rietz(Rhein Neckar Löwen/GER), Jonas Larholm(Pick Szeged/HUN)
CB:Lukas Karlsson(KIF Köpenham/DEN), Patrik Fahlgren(MT Melsungen/GER)
RB:Johan Jakobsson(Aalborg Håndbold/DEN), Magnus Persson(HK Drott Halmstad)
Defence specialists:Magnus Jernemyr(Lugi HF), Tobias Karlsson(SG Flensburg-Handewitt/GER)

Not that powerful, with a lot of newcomers, but still great middle defense(king of statistics Karlsson and best ever defender by impression Jernemyr) and propably the best pair of goalkeepers. Without Kim Andersson Sweden lacks a lot in the back. But like weakened Spain - may fight for medal position, despite not a favourite.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby Grzymisław » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:00 am

Not full yet, but other interesting and a bit underestimated team of Russia is almost selected.
List of 18 players participating in last friendly tournament:
GK:Vadim Bogdanov(Dinamo Minsk), Igor Levshin(Perm), Nikolay Sorokin(Perm)
LW:Oleg Skopintsev(Motor Zaporozhye), Anton Volkov(Stavropol)
RW:Dmitriy Kovalev(Chekhov), Samvel Aslanyan(Perm), Danill Shishkarev(Chekhov)
LP:Egor Evdokimov(Motor Zaporozhye)), Aleksandr Pyshkin(Petersburg), Pavel Maximov(Perm)
LB:Sergei Gorbok(Rhein-Neckar Lowen), Eldar Nasyrow(Petersburg), Dmitriy Zhitnikov(Chekhov)
CB:Pavel Atman(Metalurg Skopje), Inal Aflitulin(Motor Zaporozhye),
RB:Konstantin Igropulo(Fuchse Berlin), Sergei Shelmenko(Dinamo Minsk)

Considering so much lack of balance between backline and frontline, I believe there will be some back players playing frontline positions(for example Shishkarev was RW before this season, turning RB recently, Aslanyan used to play RW in Chekhov when needed too)
Maybe nearly everyone think Russia without Dibirov and additionally Chipurin and Rastvortsev has very small chance to enter main round. Other notable players missing are still active in Chekhov Oleg Grams, Aleksandr Chernoivanov and young Alexander Dereven. Such a thinking may be dangerous as strong backline should be in their best line-up with Gorbok, Igropulo, so pair of top Bundesliga backshooters with one of most impressive and unpredictable playmakers Pavel Atman and some very well-known reservers led by Shelmenko or Nasyrov. That's true - Russia looks least powerful than Serbia, Poland or weakened France. But strong enough to fight anyone in the group phase. Maybe not defeat?
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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby william » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:08 pm

Why are Dibirov and Chipurin not playing? Did they quit or were they fired? interesting that that there are so many players from Perm. Is that the new center of russian handball afer chekhov days are over. Goalkeeper played many years in Germany and is now in Perm, so it seems that there is money at least to survive with playing handball.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby Grzymisław » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:47 pm

william wrote:Why are Dibirov and Chipurin not playing? Did they quit or were they fired? interesting that that there are so many players from Perm. Is that the new center of russian handball afer chekhov days are over. Goalkeeper played many years in Germany and is now in Perm, so it seems that there is money at least to survive with playing handball.

Perm is at least competitive to Chekhov if you see the table. Egor Evdokimov was there for a while before moving to Motor Zaporozhye too.
Dibirov and Chipurin are most likely quitting due to lack of motivation or bad relations with coach.

Our great friend Wbk would know more propably as the best expert of eastern-european handball.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby Grzymisław » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:57 pm

Grzymisław wrote:
william wrote:Why are Dibirov and Chipurin not playing? Did they quit or were they fired? interesting that that there are so many players from Perm. Is that the new center of russian handball afer chekhov days are over. Goalkeeper played many years in Germany and is now in Perm, so it seems that there is money at least to survive with playing handball.

Perm is at least competitive to Chekhov if you see the table. Egor Evdokimov was there for a while before moving to Motor Zaporozhye too.
Dibirov and Chipurin are most likely quitting due to lack of motivation or bad relations with coach.

Our great friend Wbk would know more propably as the best expert of eastern-european handball.

Also edited this russian team to be more balanced(between frontline and backline).
I'm a bit surprised Kuleshov left Alexey Shindin, very short RW from Perm(played also in Petersburg when it was almost competitive Champions League team), when Shishkarev has no chance to play at RB at all(same for Aslanyan to be honest).
I think if Alexandr Tatarintsev wouldn't be useful already for national team. That's true - his career in Ademar Leon isn't rocketing, but at least he's an important player for his team. Of course he won't be more than reserver in national team.

That roster was only for friendly tournament, but I guess Kuleshov won't make changes, maybe very few.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby omak » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:10 pm

william wrote:
Grzymisław wrote:
Ivar wrote:Alexander Petersson right back of Iceland will miss this tournament due to shoulder injury.

What happened by the way? He played in all recent games of Rhein-Neckar and scored some goals.


@Omak Filip Lazarov is out for injury as well, did I get this right?


Yes, he's out too. He broke his hand and will be out for about a month, maybe more.
Also, Pecakovski, the only left back that has some attacking skills felt pain in his knee and he's on rest. They will see in the following days what will happen.
In yesterday's match against Montenegro, Obrvan used Aco Jonoski and Branko Angelovski, who haven't played in attack in years, as well as Nikola Stojcevski, who is a PM by calling.

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Postby william » Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:02 pm

If Jonovski plays attack there seem to be really lack of options. I bet that they don't win a single game.

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Postby omak » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:32 am

william wrote:If Jonovski plays attack there seem to be really lack of options. I bet that they don't win a single game.


There really isn't. Mojsovski's standard, F. Lazarov is the first in the rotation. They're both out, so in comes Pecakovski. If he's out, my guess is that Stojcevski is going to be the primary option in attack, Jonoski in defense, and Angelovski is going to cover fot both f them, when they need some rest.
I think they have a good chance of beating Czech Republic and Austria as well, if Pecakovski's in the team. If not, it's wide open.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby karel » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:35 am

Poland won Provident Cup, which was the last test before ECh. We lost to Belarus, but we beat Czech Rep. and Hungary. As I read we played quite good and had very effective defence.

It is doubtful, if Rafał Gliński and Piotr Grabarczyk are able to play in ECh. Gliński has almost no chances as he didn't play in NT for three years.
The good news is, that Michał Jurkiewicz has recovered from his injury. Michał Jurecki and Patryk Kuchczyński will be also fit for the tournament.

I don't believe we have a team for a medal this time, but I'm looking forward to this tournament.
Of course Provident Cup was just a friendly, but the results give me hope, that we can give a fight to strong teams.

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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby karel » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:08 pm

Official Polish squad:

Goalkeepers: Sławomir Szmal (Vive Targi Kielce), Piotr Wyszomirski (Csurgoi KK).

Playmakers: Karol Bielecki, Piotr Chrapkowski, Krzysztof Lijewski, Michał Jurecki (all from Vive Targi Kielce), Bartłomiej Jaszka (Füchse Berlin), Mariusz Jurkiewicz (Orlen Wisła Płock), Michał Kubisztal, Robert Orzechowski (both Górnik Zabrze), Michał Szyba (Azoty Puławy).

Wings: Przemysław Krajewski (Azoty Puławy), Jakub Łucak (SPR Chrobry Głogów), Adam Wiśniewski (Orlen Wisła Płock).

Pivots: Piotr Grabarczyk (Vive Targi Kielce), Bartosz Jurecki (SC Magdeburg), Kamil Syprzak (Orlen Wisła Płock).

Michale Biegler decided, that Kubisztal is out form the squad.
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Re: 2014 Euro Championship tournament

Postby sindri » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:59 pm

Official Iceland squad

Aron Rafn Eðvarðsson, Guif
Björgvin Páll Gústafsson, Bergischer
Arnór Atlason, St.Raphael
Aron Pálmarsson, Kiel
Ásgeir Örn Hallgrímsson, París SG
Bjarki Már Gunnarsson, Aue
Guðjón Valur Sigurðsson, Kiel
Gunnar Steinn Jónsson, Nantes
Kári Kristján Kristjánsson, Bjerringbro/Silkeborg
Ólafur Guðmundsson, Kristianstad
Róbert Gunnarsson, París SG
Rúnar Kárason, Hannover-Burgdorf
Snorri Steinn Guðjónsson, GOG
Stefán Rafn Sigurmannsson, Rhein-Neckar Löwen
Sverre Jakobsson, Grosswallstadt
Vignir Svavarsson, Minden
Þórir Ólafsson, Kielce


Listed alternates
Arnór Þór Gunnarsson, Bergischer
Árni Steinn Steinþórsson, Haukum
Bjarki Már Elísson, Eisenach
Ólafur Bjarki Ragnarsson, Emsdetten


Lots of players missing due to injury,few players in the squad carrying injuries(Guðjón Valur and Arnór Atlason).
So all in all not the best start.


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