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EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby mikh » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:23 pm

Qualification groups were drawn yesterday. First 2 teams in each group go through, together with 4 best placed 3rd best teams (only matches against 1st and 2nd ranked teams will be taken into account to establish these):

Group 1: Germany, Poland, Israel, Kosovo
Group 2: Croatia, Serbia, Switzerland, Belgium
Group 3: Macedonia, Iceland, Turkey, Greece
Group 4: Slovenia, Netherlands, Latvia, Estonia
Group 5: Belarus, Czechia, Bosnia Hercegovina, Finland
Group 6: France, Portugal, Lithuania, Romania
Group 7: Hungary, Russia, Slovakia, Italy
Group 8: Denmark, Montenegro, Ukraine, Faroe Islands

On top of these, there will be a EHF Euro Cup, contested at the same dates, between the 4 teams already qualified: Sweden, Norway, Austria (co-hosts) and Spain (defending champion).

http://eurohandball.com/article/30496

The only thing I don't really understand is why, since there are 8 groups, didn't they organise playoffs between the all 3rd placed teams, to fill the last 4 places. The only worse system from the current one would've been that from junior competitions where they say "groups 1 to X send an extra team".



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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby mikh » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:41 pm

Group 4 will allow at least 1 of NED, LAT, EST to qualify for a EC for the first time in history. In fact, if we consider the only time NED has been at a WCh was in 1961, it will feel like a premiere qualification for any of these teams.

Group 6 will be a similar affair and will see the return of at least one of POR (last time Euro 2006), LTU (only did WCh 1997 and Euro 1998), ROU (last Euro in 1996, last WCh in 2011) to a major competition.

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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby Scheersberg » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:03 pm

mikh wrote:Group 4 will allow at least 1 of NED, LAT, EST to qualify for a EC for the first time in history. In fact, if we consider the only time NED has been at a WCh was in 1961, it will feel like a premiere qualification for any of these teams.

Clearly these teams benefit from the fact that for the first time now 24 teams will qualify for EC. Holland even still has a chance to qualify for the WC 2019, but for the PO they will meet Sweden, so it 's a chance, that 's true but the chance is between 1 and 5% :)
Actually Romania did win the 1961 WC, in total they did win the WC four times, but in recent years Romanian Men handball seems, or better is less suc6full.
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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby mikh » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:34 am

Scheersberg wrote:
mikh wrote:Group 4 will allow at least 1 of NED, LAT, EST to qualify for a EC for the first time in history. In fact, if we consider the only time NED has been at a WCh was in 1961, it will feel like a premiere qualification for any of these teams.

Clearly these teams benefit from the fact that for the first time now 24 teams will qualify for EC. Holland even still has a chance to qualify for the WC 2019, but for the PO they will meet Sweden, so it 's a chance, that 's true but the chance is between 1 and 5% :)
Actually Romania did win the 1961 WC, in total they did win the WC for times, but in recent years Romanian Men handball seems, or better is less suc6full.


Like you said, Holland's chances to get past Sweden in June are quite small, but I do think they'll finally make it to a tournament in 2020. On paper, they have a decent team with young players getting Bundesliga experience and a very good coach. What they do usually lack is top matches experience. But in this group, they might just have a very very tiny edge on LAT and EST. Still, these 3 are pretty balanced and a couple of bad matches could even deny them a top-4 3rd place finish.

About Romania, ajjj... too much to talk about. We benefit from a good coach currently, who seemed to be involved at youth levels as well, but... it's 20+ years of neglecting this sector in Romania and despite still having very talented players, they're struggling with consistently playing modern handball. The group is definitely easier than the last one (where we scored 2 wins and played 2 other close matches), but at the same time I think both POR and LTU are at our level so it can really go either way. In fact, POR has consistently beaten us lately (albeit in friendlies) and while I do think we are a tad better than LTU, last time we played them in Qualis they beat us twice (granted, the matches didn't matter anymore and our players seemed completely unmotivated). Moreover, LTU has some very cool players in the ASOBAL (our coach should know them really well, though) including Bernatonis (Granollers, EHF Cup), plus Malasinskas (Zaporozhye) who showed great class in the CL this year.
I think our first couple of matches can be crucial: we play away in Portugal (very important!) and then receive France (which is not at their max and is always trying new things in Qualis).

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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby aletem » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:24 am

All I care about are the games between Macedonia and Greece! That return leg match is giving me life!! 8:)

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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby mikh » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:28 am

Did they just make everything incredibly complicated for Euro 2022?

http://www.eurohandball.com/article/31051 ](*,)
Or will it be more clear in practice?

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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby Bo$ko » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:44 am

Before the last round... We can predict which teams could be the best 3rd ranked.
Anyway, only one win against big opponent in the last round, for some teams should be enough for EURO 2020 ticket.

It'll be fun! I predict that teams from Group 1, 3, 6, 7 will not qualify as best 3rd. :D
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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby bocea » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:09 am

I think teams from groups 2,5,8 will qualify as best 3rd ranked team.

Poland I think will beat Israel today. In this case Israel will have very small chances to qualify due to bad goal difference.
Iceland and Macedonia probably will win their home matches, so Turkey will be 3rd with 0 points against first two teams.
Netherlands have very bad goal difference, so they probably will not qualify.
Romania and Lithuania will play hard away matches with strong teams so probably both lost. 3rd ranked team will have 0 points in this case.
Italy will lose to Hungary and will be also another 3rd ranked team with zero points.

Who exactly will be lucky one from theese teams very gard to predict, too many various factors can affect for result

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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby Bo$ko » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:27 pm

bocea wrote:I think teams from groups 2,5,8 will qualify as best 3rd ranked team.

Yes... + NED who needs a win against LAT today...
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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby dutchfan » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:07 pm

Netherlands Will finally play in a big tournament after 58 years =D>

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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby Bo$ko » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:51 am

Pots should be like :

1 - ESP, SWE, FRA, DEN, CRO, CZE
2 - NOR, SLO, GER, MKD, HUN, BLR
3 - ISL, AUT, MNE, POR, LAT, SUI
4 - RUS, POL, UKR, SRB, BIH, NED
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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby matt_ » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:55 pm

Yeah, and they are exactly like this.

https://men2020.ehf-euro.com/newsdetail ... l-be-done/

I think it's good about seedings in handball that hosts teams are located in pots according to their "strength".

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Re: EHF Euro 2020 - Sweden, Norway, Austria

Postby aletem » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:23 pm

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Easy group for Macedonia!


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