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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby maz » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:30 pm

I haven't really formed my definitive opinion on the influx of money for Odense.

On one hand of course it's good to see great business decisions work out. It was a no-brainer for Odense to start constructing apartments when they have the people they have in their setup. There was really no chance it was going to fail, so they are now in a very good situation because they dared to do it and wanted to build something great with Odense Håndbold.

On the other hand I don't really care about Champions League. Never have and never will unless Aarhus participates. It's just not very interesting to me. I don't really know why. I'm much more of a national guy and watches all my handball within the Danish borders. So if Odense can compete in the Champions League, good for them but it doesn't really interest me. I just hope this doesn't have a huge effect on the competitiveness of the Danish League. I would much rather have an exciting league with several teams fighting for the championship and then no teams make it far in CL.

Good for Odense. Hope it doesn't effect the league too much. That's my opinion in short :p



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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby Anol » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:08 am

I agree with Maz here. 95% of the handball that I watch is the danish league, so a interesting league is all I care about.

But we do already know a little more. Apparently Odense isn't going on a spending spree, so my fears might have been premature. But I still think that this might prompt the other teams to increase their budgets, so i just hope they are gonna be responsible about it. I don't wanna see any more clubs going belly-up.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby masch1 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:11 pm

Copenhagen is very fortunate with their league program around the Champions League matches: Aalborg, Skanderborg and next time Ringkøbing (no offense to those teams, but Copenhagen should be clear favorites).

So I'm wondering if the new league structure might actually turn out to be an advantage compared to the Danish teams that played CL in the previous seasons? Because they are now able to rest some players in between the CL matches, if they are lucky enough with their draw ofc. On the other hand there are more matches in total.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby Anol » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:41 am

They are indeed lucky. Howerver I don't think we should rely on luck. If we wanna have our teams in ChL performing well we should structure their league games so that they have 4 or 5 days of rest between a league match and ChL match. When Esbjerg was in ChL I noticed that a lot of the teams we played didn't have a game on wednesday when they played Esbjerg on saturday.
No matter how you look at it that just gives you an advantage. It might be a challenge planning the league schedule, but I think it would be worth it.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby masch1 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:05 pm

Anol wrote:They are indeed lucky. Howerver I don't think we should rely on luck. If we wanna have our teams in ChL performing well we should structure their league games so that they have 4 or 5 days of rest between a league match and ChL match. When Esbjerg was in ChL I noticed that a lot of the teams we played didn't have a game on wednesday when they played Esbjerg on saturday.
No matter how you look at it that just gives you an advantage. It might be a challenge planning the league schedule, but I think it would be worth it.


That would be a good idea. And yes ofc, it's not fair that it comes down to luck. But I hope it will still be a step forward from how it has been previously.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby Anol » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:39 am

It might not be possible to get that many days of rest after a ChL match but they should at least have the rest before the ChL

The biggest hurdle though is probably that the teams in the EHF cup should have that rest too and since we have alot of teams participating that could be a planning nightmare. Consider NFH, they played an away game sunday evening in Slovakia and are presumebly traveling home today. And they have a tough and very important game on wednesday. Not exactly ideal

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby maz » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:48 pm

How about our young goalkeepers in the league? =D>

Althea Reinhardt with her impressive 57% save-percentage. She has been dominating for Odense and having Tess Wester by her side has certainly helped her elevate her level of performance.

And Anna Kristensen. 40% save-percentage and she is still only 17 years old. She's behind a good defense but nowhere near the top levels defenses in the league, so mighty, mighty impressive of her to be that good already.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby masch1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:00 am

So Odense played without Stine Jørgensen yesterday, who is being examined for a possible knee injury. But it seems like the rest of the team stepped up (unlike last year). Højlund, Offendal (with 8 assists besides some goals), Tranborg, Cohrt seems to have taken charge in attack.

Oh, and well done Skanderborg. I'm getting a little tired of hearing different experts saying that the smaller teams don't belong in the league. Just give it a chance, will you?

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby Anol » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:38 am

Stine's possible injury is worrying on a couple of levels. Not least on the national team. As for odense winning against tth I think that came down to better physical condition of odense. But good for them that they pulled themselves together in the end. Hope Stine well be ready soon. ChL would be very difficult without her.

And I agree about the experts. If losing big to the top teams means you shouldn't be in the league, then you could argue that tth doesn't belong or silkeborg, who got their asses handed to them by tes and ohc respectively

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby Hajas » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:23 pm

Nykøbing F Håndboldklub – Team Esbjerg 21-31 (13-18)

Målscorere Team Esbjerg: Estavana Polman 8, Marit Røsberg Jacobsen 8, Vilde Ingstad 7, Kristina Liscevic 3, Kristine Breistøl 2, Sanna Solberg 1, Annette Jensen 1 og Emma Nielsen 1.
Topscorer Nykøbing: Angelica Wallén 4

Udvisninger:
Team Esbjerg: 4
Nykøbing: 1


Strong win for Esbjerg agains undefeated Nykoping. Polman back at her top

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby masch1 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:58 pm

Anol wrote:Stine's possible injury is worrying on a couple of levels. Not least on the national team. As for odense winning against tth I think that came down to better physical condition of odense. But good for them that they pulled themselves together in the end. Hope Stine well be ready soon. ChL would be very difficult without her.

And I agree about the experts. If losing big to the top teams means you shouldn't be in the league, then you could argue that tth doesn't belong or silkeborg, who got their asses handed to them by tes and ohc respectively


Yes, Klavs must be biding his nails. There's no doubt Odense's physique probably made a big difference against TTH, but I'm pretty sure the Odense team that lost with 17 goals to Copenhagen last season (without Stine J) would have been in trouble against the current TTH as well :)

Good point. Or Randers who lost a league match with 17 goals to CPH as well.
I'm also one of those people who happen to believe our talent development can benefit from it. If you look at the biggest talents in many other countries, they are getting familiar (even if not playing much themselves) with CL from a young age. So perhaps there are advantages to gain from letting our talents get familiar with a stronger opponents than what they find in 1st division as well, not to mention the chance to take responsibility from a young age.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby maz » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:17 am

Silkeborg win or a draw tomorrow would be fantastic. The new league structure is making my head spin because I have no idea when you are in a good position now with the added matches. I'm still waiting for it all to come crashing down but hopefully it doesn't happen. Never have a match against Ajax been so much a must-win match. It's even being playing in the newly renovated Bellevuehallen, so it should be even more intimate than Hal 2.

By the way. How great is it that Lærke Møller and Sofie Bæk will be experts on Tv2 during the European Championship? Difficult finding more competent players (ex-player in Lærke Møller's case) than those two. Lærke obviously used to the role but I think Sofie Bæk will be a great addition.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby Anol » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:49 am

Such a shame seeing another starplayer sidelined by injury. Lucky for her and odense that she unlike Rej will return later this season

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby maz » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:50 pm

Just so everything in here isn't the talk about injuries that unfortunately plagues the star players in the league right now.
Here's a picture of Ditte Vind keeping the young guns in the Aarhus United-squad, Sophia Snogdal and Frederikke Hedegaard, in check :lol:
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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby masch1 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:58 pm

Anol wrote:Such a shame seeing another starplayer sidelined by injury. Lucky for her and odense that she unlike Rej will return later this season


Can't we just end the season now and start over?

Hopefully it won't be that long before at least Fisker can come back.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby Anol » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:35 pm

So Aarhus is still in the top4. But that was a game they should have won. I guess a young team like aarhus will have it's up and downs

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby maz » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:25 pm

When you look at how they played, Ajax should have won and deserved to win. Ditte Vind was the main difference when Ajax didn't score the last 4-5 minutes. But it was stupid to lose a point against Ajax. Really need to get the "easy" points and make it harder for Randers, TTH, Silkeborg to catch you. Can't have these.

Simone Petersen was a magician in the first half. One of the best halves she has played in a long time but then she tried to much in the second half. Snogdal needs more minutes than Böttger at the moment. Snogdal is simply playing much better. Nice for her to play for Aarhus United in her childhood arena in Risskov.

Stine Nørklit is absolutely fantastic for Ajax. She was the main reason why they played so great in the second half. Her pace is fantastic and even though she doesn't have a ton of power in her shots, she just has great placement.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby maz » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:55 pm

maz wrote: Snogdal needs more minutes than Böttger at the moment. Snogdal is simply playing much better. Nice for her to play for Aarhus United in her childhood arena in Risskov.


To just continue a bit with our young wings. I'm really excited about Sophia Snogdal and Frederikke Hedegaard. Snogdal might be our first choice left wing in not too long if she continues developing at the same rate as she is right now. Being at FCM certainly helped her development.

Frederikke Hedegaard is just a joy to watch play handball. She is a natural wing with great instincts and can do all the shots from wide. For long I thought it was a damn damn shame that Lea Hansen left for Silkeborg but Frederikke has been a revelation to the team.

With those two and Wierzba we have three Aarhus-prospects waiting for their chance to break-through.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby masch1 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:07 pm

Hasn't Bøttger been doing pretty well though?

What's nice about the new Aarhus also seems to be that several different profiles tend to pop up all in turn. But some of their new signings seem to be doing especially well in very short time. What's next for Heine Eriksen? A-NT? :D

Speaking of wings, Andrea Hansen seems to be a bit an atypical wing. Quite big and strong. And since we are in dire need of good right wings in the league, it's going to be even more interesting to see how she develops.

First win for Ajax, and Aalborg won tonight too =D> Is Ida Lagerbon injured? It looks like she didn't play for Ringkøbing.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby maz » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:14 pm

Bøttger is wasting too many chances and plays with too much risk. She started the season very well but hasn't really hit her peak lately. She is simply too hot and cold. She was bad against Randers the first 40 minutes and then she is one of the most important players in the last 15 and a big reason the 2 points came back to Aarhus. I think that with a talent like Snogdal, they should let Snogdal get a few more minutes. Bøttger of course still the primary wing but when she doesn't perform, Snogdal needs to be an alternative.

Lagerbon got injured before todays match and it's feared that she is out with a broken ankle. Devastating for her and Ringkøbing.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby masch1 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:38 pm

maz wrote:Bøttger is wasting too many chances and plays with too much risk. She started the season very well but hasn't really hit her peak lately. She is simply too hot and cold. She was bad against Randers the first 40 minutes and then she is one of the most important players in the last 15 and a big reason the 2 points came back to Aarhus. I think that with a talent like Snogdal, they should let Snogdal get a few more minutes. Bøttger of course still the primary wing but when she doesn't perform, Snogdal needs to be an alternative.

Lagerbon got injured before todays match and it's feared that she is out with a broken ankle. Devastating for her and Ringkøbing.


Okay, you know Bøttger much better. I just noticed her name a lot on the scoreboard. And yes no need to let a talent sit on the bench, if the first choice is having a bad period.

Oh, no I'm sorry to hear that about Lagerbon. I hope it's going to be better news than that.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby maz » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:45 pm

To your comment about Andrea Hansen. I completely agree. She is exciting and it's good to see her get minutes for KBH. I think she will be a big asset for KBH in the future.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby HB9 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:34 am

https://www.europamester.dk/nina-muller ... i-danmark/

Hey Nina, maybe try to slow down the pace somewhat against the stronger teams (e.g. everyone else), maybe that will give Randers some points? I know, it's a completely wacky train of thought, isn't it. :p

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby maz » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:54 am

This must be the last season that Laura Damgaard doesn't play for either a playoff-team or a playoff-contender at least. She just consistently shows that she is a top playmaker when she enters the league. She was great for Skanderborg two seasons ago and she is playing great for Aalborg this season. So quick and great awareness. Her contract is up with Aalborg in the summer, so I expect that teams in need of a playmaker will look to her for a new one. Only 22 years old and a ton of experience leading teams.

On the other end of the spectrum. Line Uno isn't shining very bright for Viborg anymore. With them having less and less of the play tied up to her, she can't really perform in the role they are giving to her. Their tempo isn't what it used the be the last couple of seasons and therefore the style doesn't really fit Uno. Her contract is also up at the end of the season and it will be interesting to see what the future holds for her.

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Re: Danish League 2018/19

Postby masch1 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:48 am

maz wrote:This must be the last season that Laura Damgaard doesn't play for either a playoff-team or a playoff-contender at least. She just consistently shows that she is a top playmaker when she enters the league. She was great for Skanderborg two seasons ago and she is playing great for Aalborg this season. So quick and great awareness. Her contract is up with Aalborg in the summer, so I expect that teams in need of a playmaker will look to her for a new one. Only 22 years old and a ton of experience leading teams.


It's funny, I said the same thing recently. Unless there is some other reason, it will be hard for Aalborg to keep hold of her.


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