Coronavirus and the future for Handball

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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby Bfg97 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:17 am

This virus has put on the table the expensiveness of the handball today. European federation has to bring more money to the clubs. The handball wages are insanely high respect to the revenues of the clubs. Only thanks to big companies or local government(România case) The handball îs alive. Today TV rights are fundamental în every sport. Unless Ehf doesnt share more money with clubs, handball may fall. Samsonenko he was right about the revenues.



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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby Doru Delavale » Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:56 am

FRH s chief president Alexandru Dedu said if clubs handball teams are not going to prepare themselves inside halls 2 weeks or at least 10 days , the begining in August of RO NHL is in danger (not to begin) ...
Many RO teams prepare on mountains cantonments training but without prepare matches against other teams as it was plannned previously. Many feared to have Dinamo s football players fate ( 18 from 21 players COVID positives,and now Dinamo has to play only juniors or 0-3 scores without play ,the last each 4 matches )...
Some said (in football especially) that only competition CANTONMENTS should be the solution to avoid these situations.
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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby Wbk » Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:38 am

Newly, case(s) found in the WHIL (Czech-Slovak women's league) teams:

● Písek (official). UPDATE: overall 4 cases found after the whole team was tested
○ Iuventa Michalovce (unofficial)

Note: Iuventa played a test match ag. Kisvárda (HUN) last Friday (17 July)
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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby HB9 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:54 pm

The German (womens) Bundesliga confirmed the start of the season on the 5th of September (*). The maximum amount of spectators allowed will vary from one federal state to another. But it's unlikely to be any more than a few hundred.

* Interestingly enough: that's before any other sports league in Germany starts again - even mens football and handball.

*edit: womens football beats them by one day.
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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby Anol » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:09 pm

HB9 wrote:The German (womens) Bundesliga confirmed the start of the season on the 5th of September (*). The maximum amount of spectators allowed will vary from one federal state to another. But it's unlikely to be any more than a few hundred.

* Interestingly enough: that's before any other sports league in Germany starts again - even mens football and handball.

*edit: womens football beats them by one day.


Are the clubs gonna get some sort of compensation for the loss of profit associated with fewer spectators?

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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby HB9 » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:22 pm

Anol wrote:Are the clubs gonna get some sort of compensation for the loss of profit associated with fewer spectators?


The emergency aid provides that the missing spectators income in the months of April to December 2020 will be reimbursed with 80 percent of the net sales after deduction of sales fees and VAT.


https://translate.google.co.uk/translat ... 64244.html

Forget that sentence in the article about womens leagues - of course they are also eligible.
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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby HB9 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 6:22 pm

@Anol

https://sport.tv2.dk/haandbold/2020-08- ... -millioner

Based on figures from the Divisional Association in Handball, DIF writes that the men's best league can miss out on 182 million kroner in revenue. For the women's league, the figure is 112 million kroner.


I don't quite know how they got too such a high estimate. Surely 112 million for the womens league alone might be a slight exaggeration. That would be over 15 million € ! :lol:

But I guess they want to set the bar high, because in Germany all the sports clubs combined also demanded 1 billion € initially...now they had to settle for 'only' 200 million € and not one of them has complained yet. :D
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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby Anol » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:19 pm

HB9 wrote:@Anol
https://sport.tv2.dk/haandbold/2020-08- ... -millioner
Based on figures from the Divisional Association in Handball, DIF writes that the men's best league can miss out on 182 million kroner in revenue. For the women's league, the figure is 112 million kroner.


I don't quite know how they got too such a high estimate. Surely 112 million for the womens league alone might be a slight exaggeration. That would be over 15 million € ! :lol:

But I guess they want to set the bar high, because in Germany all the sports clubs combined also demanded 1 billion € initially...now they had to settle for 'only' 200 million € and not one of them has complained yet. :D


Yeah I don't know, but my guess is that included in those figures are also sponsorships that could likely be terminated if the sponsors can't go to games. Idk
and as you alluded to, no one in their right mind would enter a negotiation with a low estimate

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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby depor8 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:09 pm

Handball is in most part a decent sport in terms of spending.
But when looking at other sports I find exaggerated that football clubs are even in this situation talking about 70 -100 million euro or more for a player transfer.
And the football players wages are also way too big. I mean 10-15-20-25 million a year for what ?

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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby Doru Delavale » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:06 pm

Haslum and Arendal retired from eurocompetition...if the examples will be follow by Vipers ,Molde,Tertnes...the eurocompetition will be burried at least until 2021/2022.

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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby HB9 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:19 pm

Ok, I got it, testing players regularly will be essential when it comes to having a 'more normal' season. And if that's what it takes I approve of it. But when I read stuff like this...

As reported by the “Tagesspiegel”, the virologist wrote in a letter to the governing mayor and the health senator that capacities were running out due to the “global quota of essential reagents and consumables”.

A testing of travelers returning is "no longer possible to the extent of the past weeks by the Berlin laboratories". Even now, "diagnostics cannot be carried out as part of the planned testing of nursing staff in old people's and nursing homes". The letter was therefore also signed by experts from the Berlin laboratories.


https://translate.google.com/translate? ... aefen.html

...then I can't really see how one can justify helping handball players throw their ball around when these tests are required urgently somewhere else.

And he knows what he is talking about, as he developed the first ever COVID test back in january: https://www.dzif.de/en/researchers-deve ... irus-china
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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby dutchfan » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:36 am

Eredivisie handball is not allowed to play. All adult transports are prohibited with the exception of male football. The match from SEW- gran canaria probably will not be played. A small chance it will be changed, because of protests against that only male football is allowed, but I'm afraid it comes too late for SEW
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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby HB9 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:16 pm

Wednesday - five days after Tertnes' away match against Romanian Dunarea Braila, in what was the 2nd qualifying round of the women's EHF Europa League, the club confirmed that one player had given a positive corona test.


https://www.tv2.no/a/11715369
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Re: Coronavirus and the future for Handball

Postby HB9 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:36 pm

HB9 wrote:
Wednesday - five days after Tertnes' away match against Romanian Dunarea Braila, in what was the 2nd qualifying round of the women's EHF Europa League, the club confirmed that one player had given a positive corona test.


https://www.tv2.no/a/11715369



Three more Tertnes players tested positive: https://www.aftenposten.no/sport/i/gW7e ... paa-korona
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